Rolling Cannabis Politics Thread

would you trust your baby with a POTHEAD?!?

i'm going to assume the lady in lee626 story wasn't just buying weed

She wasn't, it was an assortment of harder stuff, coke, heroin, PCP, lord knows what else.

Babies and children don't get to choose whether their parents are druggies or not.

i can understand w hy ppl wouldn't want to legalize all drugs, and i can envision a compassionate drug policy that gave medical aid to serious drug addicts, diacetylmorphine prescriptions to heroin users, etc. ie one much better than the one we have now. weed tho has the added absurdity of being as safe or safer than other legalized (and controlled) substances, like tobacco which kills you and alcohol which can cause liver dmg, drunk driving serious society concern, etc. i think even more than concerns over failed drug war it is the perceived safety of marijuana which is causing ppl to favor legalization more and more every year. i also think that medicinal marijuana is just a convenient by step to full legalization and it's just a way for ppl to start to get comfortable w/ the idea on a legislative level. decriminalization is an important indicator too that policy is slowly changing.

OTOH i know a medical user who is getting about as skeptical about MM as he is about big pharma products and about as grossed out w/ the industry

For the information of ilx, Oregon qualified an initiative on the ballot for November's general election that would regulate marijuana similarly to alcohol and legalize hemp production. More info here.

God only knows what the feds would do if this passes. I plan to vote in favor.

punitive tax on nike shoes and dave's killer bread

washington has a similar initiative on the ballot, it's looking like the medical marijuana providers here are marshalling their forces against it. According to them it "throws patients under the bus" but it sure seems like they're trying to protect their bottom line.

is it replacing an mmj law on the ballot or is there already one?

mmj is legal here, this would make possession of an ounce legal, and set up a 5-nanogram standard for DUI arrests. There are various arguments back and forth about whether a regular mmj user would meet that standard while driving sober. But really, it's not like they have any protection at all from DUI arrests under the current law.

dui arrests should be based on playing mario kart

From what I understand, it's difficult to test for whether someone is currently high on cannaboids (compared to alcohol, where you can readily test for current intoxication for purposes of DUI/DWI arrests). It's easy to administer drug tests that will detect if someone has blazed in the last week or two, but smoking weed a week earlier won't impair your driving today.

Alcohol is water-soluble and THC is fat-soluble. Water-soluble drugs exit the body quickly while fat-soluble drugs linger in the body long after their pharmacological effect has worn off.

smoking weed a week earlier won't impair your driving today

it might if you got BIN LADEN WEED

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/05/osama-bin-laden-marijuana-crop_n_858301.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/economists-marijuana-legalization_n_1431840.html

http://www.avclub.com/articles/martin-a-lee-smoke-signals-a-social-history-of-mar,84488/

When he plants his feet firmly and reels off a list of italicized “slang words for marijuana in English”—“grass, reefer, tea, pot, dope, weed, bud, skunk, butt, blunt, Mary Jane”—he sounds just like Jack Webb on Dragnet

<3 it

brb smokin butt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurel-dewey/marijuana-is-not-addictive_b_1739339.html

the story is cute, this is the real wheat tho: http://beyondchronic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Grannys-List-July-2012.pdf

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurel-dewey/marijuana-is-not-addictive_b_1739339.html

^^ LOL bullshit

cigarettes aren't addictive either

or coffee

or SSRIs and benzos

:-/

caffeine + tobacco are both legal

http://www.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1492

and a fucking hell of a lot cheaper too

i want to see this: http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/documentary-takes-a-business-view-of-street-drug-trade/

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/09/11/legalize-pot-for-the-children

it doesn't mention it, but also good for the kids is legalized regulation. i've seen studies over the years that show that kids have easier access to pot than they do to alcohol bc of the way alcohol is regulated ie you buy it thru stores, not thru shady dealer in playground or whatever

that kind of doesn't make sense to me. but then again, in HS *everyone* pretty much had access to everything!

a lot of those studies are self-reported by kids so i don't always put the most stock in them

It was way harder to get booze than pot in high school for me, but it wasn't true for people I knew whose parents drank or who had a sleazy older friend from college or something, and I think that more people fell into those categories.

why would kids self-report marijuana more than alcohol? wouldn't you'd think a bias would run in reverse?

i don't know. good question. but at the same time i have trouble believing it would it be easier for kids to get pot than alcohol for the reason that how's life brings up

It makes total sense. One kid gets pot from a dubious source, discreetly sells it to other kids at school. A few beers would fill up a bookbag, get shaken around, and make alot of noise.

I think this is the study I'm remembering:

http://blog.norml.org/2009/08/28/study-says-its-easier-for-teens-to-buy-marijuana-than-beer/

yeah that's a good point adam but another thing i think is that some things get way more attention than others from the kids themselves

we would always have these school safety survey results where 75% of kids would say they didn't do drugs but 75% of their friends did or something like that

"In their study, they found that 40 percent of teens could get marijuana within a day; another quarter said they could get it within an hour"

that part is like a little "yeah, okay, sure kid."

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/23/study_marijuana_prevents_spread_of_cancer/

was surprised to find out "california pacific medical center" is actually a legit institution, it sounds like a dispensary

lol

this is kinda important:
http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2012/10/15/medical-marijuana-gets-its-day-in-federal-court-tomorrow/

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/british_study_commends_drug_decriminalization/

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20121016_New_Jersey_s_first_medical-marijuana_dispensary_wins_clearance_to_begin_selling.html

i should move to cherry hill

yeah but the mmj restrictions in jersey are totally absurd

i'd qualify tho