yeah I read it as old world type goes out death-before-dishonor style
conversely, when walt's back is against the wall he contemplates suicide but decides to poison children instead
xp to forks
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
walt is a true player
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
he was originally positioned as an adversary though. And then the adversaries get creepier and scummier, like it doesn't just go from jesse to gus. It goes from Jesse, to crazy 8, to tuco, and then to gus. Like in Deadwood you go from swearingen to tolliver to hearst.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think Hearst was scummier than Francis Wolcott
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
who is the badger of ilx
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
who is scumbag onethe reanimated corpse of pablo escobar
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)
between tuco and gus there's the salamanca brothers
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)
badger was loveable and liked snacks, right?
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
he was originally positioned as an adversary though.
― sarahell, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is not at all true! they worked together from the first episode making meth in the rv in the desert, then jesse tried to get away from walt and walt had to manipulate him into coming back, which is the nature of their relationship up to the present day
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)
xp - true, though Hearst Wolcott were boss & henchman. Anyway, it is just interesting to me how Swearingen goes from ubercreep scumbag to lovable rogue in that show. And Jesse goes from creepy dude to almost the conscience of the show?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
so tired of these worn out tv tropes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)
I was expecting German guy to put the AED pads on his chest and give himself a shock. Defibrillating a normal cardiac rhythm can trigger VFib, which would be fatal if not reversed (by shocking again). Electrocution is more direct and not subject to reversal from the cops kicking in the door, smart choice.
― misty sensorium (Plasmon), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)
this is not at all true! they worked together from the first episode
What?! They had an adversarial relationship at the beginning - they were partners, but Jesse was the adversary/antagonist
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)
There's one of those units on the wall about 20 feet from my office. Built in emergency exit.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
so they were partners but adversaries
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
narratively, yes!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Bad_(season_1) <<<here u go
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)
also http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narrative
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Breaking Bad (season 1 in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.
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― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
its the second ) - ilx never catches it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
you guys must've hated the end of the godfather
In fairness, Michael's shown to be a lying, dishonorable fuck (killed his bro-in-law, denies it to his wife), and in II even moreso (kills his brother).
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, there is absolutely no antagonism between Walt and Jesse in season 1. They are total bros.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
jesse is not the antagonist in any season of the show, the have a rocky relationship but he is in fact walts closest ally
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)
you want to see some s1 antagonists:
Maximino Arciniega as Krazy-8 Molina (3 episodes)Raymond Cruz as Tuco Salamanca (2 episodes)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
neither of whom im sry to report ever revealed themselves to be lovable in comparison to gus
eh, I'd say he was Walt's antagonist in the first episode, maybe the first two, until we get to crazy 8, his cousin, and so on.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
the antagonist is CANCER
― I DIED, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
when does cancer become a loveable rogue
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
it was rough the way jesse was antagonizing walt getting tracked down in his back yard and offered a business proposal
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)
Aren't krazy and emilio in the first episode? And they try to kill Walt and Jesse? Like an antagonist might do?
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)
i mean stay out of yr back yard otherwise the poor guy is gonna come try to get to to cook meth w/him in the desert and youre going to do it you monster
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)
okay okay okay i give up, it isn't as tidy as that, but it is related in the sense that as a viewer you are put in a position of moral relativism between scumbag 1 and scumbag 2, except that scumbag 1 is the protagonist, Walt.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:15 PM (18 minutes ago)
was thinking more of vito - an old school guy with a code who lives to a ripe old age, dies peacefully
maybe breaking bad will end with mike having a heart attack while playing hungry hippos or feeding his chickens
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)
lag otm re: jesse, can't believe this is even a debate
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)
― sarahell, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:34 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i agree it was awesome they way they did it on deadwood but i just dont see it operating much on breaking bad which is more just abt the moral decline of walt - tho i guess you could say if you wanted to stretch it that hes taking baby steps to villianhood by taking a relative view of his past indiscretions
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
the oh so delicate baby steps of poisoning a child
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
he took a lot of them to get there
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)
9 according to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/showbiz/tv/breaking-bad-chips-scarface/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EKBerN0vACQ/TpUyHb_p-6I/AAAAAAAAInc/i-nPF_BbRJQ/s1600/aw+hell+yeah.jpgone of my fave little details from this ep was that the kid's picture on the fridge behind walt when he was trying to pitch mike to help him set up shop included, in child's script, the phrase "blue is good"
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:32 (thirteen years ago)
as noted by a gazillion redditors too apparently<img src="http://i.imgur.com/PszAq.jpg">
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)
ok - so that fucking CNN piece did the same thing everyone here was doing when Walt "Let Jane die".he had previously handed Jesse a gun and told him to take care of the guys the ripped them off. literally ordered him to kill some people. but everyone flew off the handle later on, when he watched this attractive young girl choke to death on her own vomit; saying that he had "gone too far" and yadda yadda.
just a thing that always bothered me about peoples reaction to this show - letting an attractive girl die is in no way worse than ordering the murder of two junkies, people!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)
"the guys that ripped them off"
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
really wish this show never did a musical montage
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)
Q: (and who the fuck has that kind of james bond thought process to zap yourself with a defibrillator under your tongue? dude prolly shoulda just jumped off the roof but I guess that's less compelling tv)
A: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/250px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png
― pplains, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)
ha ha, that was the answer in my head too!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
for a second I was trying to remember when the cast broke into song
xps
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
of all the big HBO/AMC shows from the past decade or so i think only The Sopranos was really adept at using music
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)
and yet The Sopranos had the worst theme song of them all
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
you had the worst...etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:22 (thirteen years ago)
you woke up this morning and forgot yourself a zing
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)