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Cock is a language. A load of old shite is a dialect of it.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Alba: Because language can be used to forge an ethnic identity and lead to separatism and rivalry. Of course, if you refuse to let groups speak their own language then that's the best way to make them all militant about it and want to bomb you. So, politically it's a good idea to allow people to speak however they like.

x-post: Saying that Scots is a dialect of English kind of sounds like "well English was here first and the Scots just starting speaking it all weird". Of course, I don't think that.

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Because language can be used to forge an ethnic identity and lead to separatism and rivalry

Yes. Reading Tore Janson's book about language Speak, one of the things that struck me was how important this aspect is, how when nation/empire building, stamping out regional dialects/languages in a draconian way often does achieve its aim, even in the long-term. Without it, countries do fail to gel as nations. I often get all confused about where my sympathies lie when it comes to nationalism.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I need to read some books. I am going to put that one on my Amazon wishlist.

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I'll lend you it!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Switzerland has gelled pretty effectively!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

There's always Switzerland.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, even better. Thanks Alba.

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 July 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Swiss people do have nice hair.

― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Please, let's remain neutral.

― KeefW (kmw), Friday, 29 July 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I still dearly love Grant Morrison.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

How did that kill the thread? He's one of the best! Born and bred in Glasgow!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 29 July 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

we're all asleep in glasgow, thassall

― dahlin (dahlin), Friday, 29 July 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

Responding to threads in your sleep is the 14th sign of ilx dependency dahlin.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

What are the 13 before that?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

1. Pressing refresh on the new answers page so frequently that sometimes it doesn't even change
2. Checking your favourite current threads before you have breakfast (me, now).
3. Cancelling shutting down your pc at the last minute just so you can have one quick look at new answers.
4. Emailing friends about ongoing threads even though you know they're reading it anyway.
5. ILX Dreams.
6. Getting annoyed when your idea of a good thread dies.
7. Bumping said tread because you can't accept no-one else is interested.
8. Bookmarking more than three boards (I have music, everything and books so I think I'm ok).
9. Thinking about threads on your way home from work, wondering how they're progressing.
10. Composing messages in your head when you're nowhere near a computer.
11. Using ilxisms in everyday conversation, to the bafflement of your friends and family.
12. Thinking of yourself/introducing yourself as your screenname.
13. KNowing the 14 signs of ilx dependency.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

2. That is me now, too! I have just got myself a small handful of nuts to keep me going.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm eating Starburst Jooster Jelly Beans, cinema leftovers. The popcorn's inedible :-((

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

2. That's me too, right now!

You forgot the one about coming in pissed and switching on your PC first before even considering the kettle/toaster.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

I think I do several of those: 1,2,5,6,7,10 and 11. Oh, and I think I've probably introduced myself as my screen-name too at some point.

(when I met Ned, I introduced myself by asking him if he had a blue tie. He quickly realised it was me.)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 30 July 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

I think Camera Obscura should probably be mentioned somewhere on this thread.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Saturday, 30 July 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

My favourite Scottish word = oos (it means fluff)

― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 30 July 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

christ, gerry. i'd have to admit to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11, 12 and now 13. plums.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 30 July 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Camera Obscura

I was just going to cite them! Even (especially?) their English member.

― Mooro (Mooro), Saturday, 30 July 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Never heard of them

― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 30 July 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

I've heard it said that behind every great Scottish band there has to be a great English woman.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 30 July 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

"smothercate"

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 July 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

I had completely forgotten my promise to bring butteries to a FAP. Possibly because we go out to eat stuff and bringing your own food wouldn't be very good form.

I love this thread.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 29 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

bring butteries to koshkemeer!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 29 October 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

ailsa, mail me your address and I can possibly send you some in time. (Fowlie's service will be too expensive if you don't want meat too)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry about it, a trip to Tesco will suffice for introductory purposes. I can bring some home with me when I go up north for Christmas if need be.

Also there is the possibility that I will just eat them all myself.

I noticed upthread that I was going to tell the story of my flatmates being in the Sunday Post. They were in a band, and wanted some publicity. They therefore went to the Sunday Post with a ridiculous story of how they met their drummer - he had come round to audition for the band and had looked through the singer's tape collection and found a demo tape from a previous band of his there which, suprise, had been given to the singer by a friend of a friend and had become a big favourite of his, and he'd always wanted to meet the people responsible. And now he had, and now they're in a band together.

This story, incidentally, does not have one iota of truth to it. Yet there it was in the centre pages of the Sunday Post alongside other heartwarming tales of hillwalking dogs and marathon running lollipop ladies.

In other exciting news, you can read Francis Gay online!. There's something not quite right about the Sunday Post being on teh interweb, but I like that their website is reassuringly pish.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 30 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Also there is the possibility that I will just eat them all myself.

Tell me about it, I've eaten 6 myself since Thursday night.

I have a friend who was also involved in a fake Sunday Post centre page story. Three times. It was quite lucrative, letting Little Old Ladies laugh at the Youth Of Today.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Sunday, 30 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

I haven't thought about the Sunday Post in years and years! My grandparents used to have a subscription to it, I remember all of the goofy stories it would have.

― So so Krispie (Ex Leon), Sunday, 30 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

My friend is the Sunday Post today with a story about washing dishes on an ironing board while watching tv. It's a top time saving tip!

― Stew (stew s), Sunday, 30 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

For ILEORS who didn't know yet:

R.I.P. Ivor Cutler

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Scotland, there's a documentary on about Oor Wullie tomorrow night at 9pm. I'm a bit disheartened by the voice-over which pronounces "crivvens" as "creevens". I know Dundonians do odd pronunciations, but Oor Wullie is so phonetically written ("help ma boab", "wee Jeemie" etc) that I wud (ha!) have thought that they'd have written it "creevens" if it should be pronounced as such.

The trailer features Dominik Diamond - for one glorious moment I thought Aldo had had his hair cut and had been drafted in as a talking head following the powers-that-be at the BBC reading this thread. Sadly not.

(that rant about plain bread still makes me weep helpless tears of laughter every time I read it).

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Revive, simply because I recently managed to find a copy of Alasdair Gray's "Lanark" and while "Unlikely Stories, Mostly" has always been my favourite book, I'm only 6 chapters into this and it's starting to exceed even that. Droool!

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 4 May 2006 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Scots Wikipedia!

No Irvine Welsh on this thread - does everyone hate him the noo?

― rener (rener), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)

None of the links work on that Scots page.

Irvine Welsh is equal parts classic and dud. His last two novels were a marked return to form after a dodgy spell.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:46 (twenty years ago)

I thought Aldo had had his hair cut and had been drafted in as a talking head following the powers-that-be at the BBC reading this thread.

I am sad this never came true.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Lanark is one of those books which were waiting for the internet to happen.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

whaddya mean marcello?

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

No Irvine Welsh on this thread - does everyone hate him the noo?

Och aye

― Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

cocteau twins, jesus and mary chain, prefab sprout, trash can sinatras, orange juice, aztec camera, joseph k, nick currie and the bad seeds... are th e housemartins scottish?

― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:43 (twenty years ago)

You die, ya bass

― Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Thursday, 4 May 2006 10:44 (twenty years ago)

William Topaz McGonagall - the poets' poet!
O and cheese'n'burger with salt and sauce on the way home from the pub - yum!

― indolent girl (indolent girl), Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:05 (twenty years ago)

whaddya mean marcello?

Different sections that can be read in any order, the sidebars of blockplags/diplags/etc., author's interjections, artwork: everything in it cries out to be hyperlinked with everything else in it (see also Life: A User's Manual, The Unfortunates, Arcades Project etc. etc.).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:07 (twenty years ago)

www.consolevania.com

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 4 May 2006 11:23 (twenty years ago)

prefab sprout ur fae Durham ya tumshie

― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Boyle Family
http://www.boylefamily.co.uk/boyle/about/boylefamily.jpg

― Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:32 (twenty years ago)

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