Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

her plastic face had many great expression in S4, true

if he loses the emmy I hope he makes this face and starts ringing a bell

http://mediocritycomplex.com/uploads/tio.salamanca.loop.gif

And poops everywhere.

then explodes

http://i.imgur.com/wCzwL.jpg

(sorry for the macro)

Somehow I hadn't seen that season 5 trailer before. What a great use of "Oh Well".

Huh, they even nominated Tio Salamanca from S4!

― the new dire homonomoreboobsativity (Eric H.), Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:16 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

mark margolis is an awesome actor, good for him

gunn had some great moments in s4 too, i thought she was killer in that phone scene at the very end of the finale

just realized that all of this show's favorite directorial flourishes are taken from the 'thunderstruck' video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukUetw0hAM

http://www.newyorker.com/images/2012/10/01/cartoons/121001_cartoon_043_a17011_p465.gif

It took me as long to read this thread as it did to watch everything. Now that I got cable, what a difference between waiting seven days for an episode versus watching three or four in two hour: no time to let events sink in. But this thread helped. You guys were great.

Spectacular ending to Season Four -- maybe the best finale I've seen.

glad u liked alf. u caught up on s5?

Nope. Out on DVD in two weeks!

i had the ending of s4 partially spoiled for me by sepinwall, but it was still a super satisfying conclusion to the Gus Saga

New york mag interview with gilligan is good

Spectacular ending to Season Four -- maybe the best finale I've seen.

Ditto. Except for S3's, the last two episodes of which in tandem are the high point of all current TV.

Well, the high point of BB, anyway.

S5 is pretty much a season too far for me. can walt hurry up and die already?

New york mag interview with gilligan is good

― utilizing my famously feline agility to seek managerial succor (forksclovetofu), Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://www.vulture.com/2013/05/vince-gilligan-on-breaking-bad.html

We’re talking now just a few days after the Boston Marathon bombings, and I’m sure you’ve been watching the news. Did you see that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had tweeted that he was a Breaking Bad fan?
No. Jesus.

He also tweeted, “Breaking Bad taught me how to dispose of a corpse.”
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Oh, Jesus Christ. No, I did not know that.

One of the criticisms of Breaking Bad that keeps coming up is over the female characters. Skyler White is seen by some as this henpecking woman who stands in the way of all of Walt’s fun.
Man, I don’t see it that way at all. We’ve been at events and had all our actors up onstage, and people ask Anna Gunn, “Why is your character such a bitch?” And with the risk of painting with too broad a brush, I think the people who have these issues with the wives being too bitchy on Breaking Bad are misogynists, plain and simple. I like Skyler a little less now that she’s succumbed to Walt’s machinations, but in the early days she was the voice of morality on the show. She was the one telling him, “You can’t cook crystal meth.” She’s got a tough job being married to this asshole. And this, by the way, is why I should avoid the Internet at all costs. People are griping about Skyler White being too much of a killjoy to her meth-cooking, murdering husband? She’s telling him not to be a murderer and a guy who cooks drugs for kids. How could you have a problem with that?

gilligan otm

yep

Being called a misogynist for not liking Skyler is like being called a racist for not liking Gus.

(But who didn't like Gus? I digress...)

I agree that Walt was the feeble little man with no spine who kowtowed to his wife, his brother-in-law, his carwash boss, his students even... But. Skyler had a hand in creating this powder keg. Imagine having a wife that you tried to hide having cancer from, knowing that any decision offered to you on your illness would automatically become hers instead. She's just as conniving as her husband. She's manipulative. The humiliating birthday parties, eBay handjobs and an overbearing do-it-my-way attitude...

Keep in mind Walt has tried to kill himself not once but twice – once with the gun in the pilot episode and once when he decided to just fucking die from the cancer. But noooooooo, Skyler sets up the pillow intervention, gets on the phone, badgers the insurance company, badgers the doctors, even goes so far as to badger Walt's old Gray Matters associates into offering him a position. All of those things Walt didn't want. You could almost say she unintentionally badgered him into cooking meth.

And when Walt didn't give her what she wanted (leaving her in the dark about his awful new life), she gets him back by fucking her old boss. More getting it her way. More humiliation. And hell, as soon as she does get clued in on his operation, it's all "you're going to pay for this" and "buy this carwash" and I'll handle this awful drug money, thankyouverymuch.

You think the Aztek was his idea? What I'd love to see a flashback scene of those two in the car salesman's office.

I don't hate Skyler. She and Jesse are the only two characters with a hand in the operation who seem to have any ability to recant or feel the least bit sorry for what's happening to them. She cooks a mean breakfast. She carried a child for 24 months. And Walt's the monster. He's the one that's tried to rape his wife once or twice already.

Now if anyone tries calling Marie a bitch, I'm coming after them.

And when Walt didn't give her what she wanted (leaving her in the dark about his awful new life), she gets him back by fucking her old boss.

no, she fucks her old boss because she has a need for intimate contact with a human being who she doesn't loathe outright

So that's why she sauntered into the kitchen with a cat-ate-the-canary face to say to her husband "I Fucked Ted".

no, that was a bonus.

wait wasn't she kinda cruel to him in s1 before there was an excuse

xps Wow, seriously disagree with that. Need to re-watch it as I may remember wrongly but before all that Ted stuff it struck me as a kind of normal, boring relationship with Walt being full of simmering resentment to innocuous things. Living with no money and a bunch of stresses that that comes with can strain a relationship but I remember it as essentially 'we're in this together'.
But then I'm the kind of person who doesn't understand why anyone gives a shit about the model of car they drive so perhaps I'm doing all this inadvertently as well.
And if my husband decided to "just die from cancer" I'd sure as hell make sure I did as much re insurance etc to make sure he at least had the option of not doing that.

"badgered him into cooking meth", honestly. 'You MADE me hit you because your attempts to help me were misguided'

when Walt didn't give her what she wanted (leaving her in the dark about his awful new life), she gets him back by fucking her old boss.

ok I haven't been writing BB slashfic like some of you but this didn't play this way at all

i definitely liked the character a lot more when they started to give her character some more shades than "shrewish harpy" around season 2/3 - yeah it included some more negative traits as well (like that weird deliberately smoking while pregnant out of spite) but she seemed a lot more human

I never saw her as a shrew -- a derogatory term used by guys anyway. imo she's been the same since Season One: an alert woman who deceives herself into thinking she loathes the ethical compromises to which Walt's job has exposed her.

^ otm

And if my husband decided to "just die from cancer" I'd sure as hell make sure I did as much re insurance etc to make sure he at least had the option of not doing that.

You might also want to ask yourself why he'd want to do such a thing in the first place.

because being told you're going to die might affect your long-term decision-making?
I don't actually remember him saying this to her or the context (presumably 'my life is not worth living and we don't have the money so...') so dunno really
but seriously, a friend tells you they want to die and you don't suggest otherwise?

sometimes they're right. especially in the ridiculous case of Breaking Bad!

(not accounting for the other, more sane decisions Walt could've made lol)

i almost gave up on watching in s2 b/c of skyler early characterization as a harpy etc. some of the moments with her have stood out to me ever since as some of the worst in the series - singing happy birthday to ted, for instance. really? she's going to humiliate herself like that in front of the entire office? she's not stupid!

idk, if skyler's been such an awful shrew that he just couldn't wait to die and/or cook meth to get away from her, why didn't he just get a divorce prior to this

Are there any honest-to-God nice characters on TV that you still find interesting?
SpongeBob SquarePants is a great show, and it centers on a character that is courageously nice. Why is SpongeBob interesting? It’s because he has passion. He has a passion for chasing jellyfish. I’m very glad people love Breaking Bad, but the harder character to write is the good character that’s as interesting and as engaging as the bad guy. My hat is off to the SpongeBob showrunners. It’s like how Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, except backward and in high heels. That’s kind of the struggle you face when you’re writing the good guy now instead of a bad guy.

Yeah, that quote's been around ever since there was a Ginger Rogers.

new to me!

"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

- matthew weiner

"the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - chuck lorre

"i'm sure the ginger rogers quote isn't original with him" - forksclovetofu

"Tippecanoe and Tyler, too, BITCH!"

http://imgix.8tracks.com/mix_covers/000/378/849/74506.original.jpg?fm=jpg&q=65&sharp=15&vib=10&w=521&h=521&fit=crop

"who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the armenians?" - jj abrams

"Tina you fat lard, come get some dinner." - Ike Turner

I immediately disliked Skyler until I thought about her situation - a husband that has let life beat him down and seems to beg to be disrespected, a son with cp, little or no money, a surprise baby on the way. It seems natural to me that she would attempt to control everything because who else is going to?
And I'm talking pre- meth and pre-cancer here.
That said, I have no doubt sleeping with Ted was revenge. She clearly doesn't like him very much.
I can't remember... did skylar know about the meth when she started working at beneke or was she still assuming he was having an affair?

IIRC sleeping with Ted happened very soon after Skyler made Walt spill the beans on his meth cooking. Like in the next episode or something. So it was clearly implied to be revenge on Walt for what he had done.

"His mother should have thrown him out and kept the stork." - Bob Marley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=OuoZqLyMMI4

huh.... cool?