itt blogs instruct you how to be a man

ok, there's four - frankenstein, the book of deeds of arms and of chivalry (it was written by a woman so it's all totes legit!!!), to kill a mockingbird and atlas shrugged

what a dull list

You can't find fault with a list that includes 4 biographies of Teddy Roosevelt though.

he's like ron swanson for old ppl

the author of those self made man columns i posted upthread has a new piece on salon:

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/07/trans_but_not_like_you_think/

i didn't understand the salon piece. i mean, i think i got the basic idea, but i don't understand the 'not like you think' part. maybe it's just me but it seemed a little incoherent

I don’t think I was born in the wrong body. I am not “finally myself.” I’ve never spent a day being anyone else.

idk. the author had pretty serious surgery done and took hormones - i can see how the term "born in the wrong body" might not feel like a perfect description to the author but surely it is true even here? like, the narrative read (to me at least) fairly traditionally.

I dunno why but I find the term "memoir-in-progress" sort of irritating

mordy, i'm really not interested in engaging you on this subject. i posted that link here for people who previously read & enjoyed the author's other work, which i posted upthread. the author happens to be a neighbor & friend so i'd appreciate your understanding in not second-guessing his intent. if you'd like to take the subject to a different thread, by all means do so.

how about first guessing?

how about stfu

i liked that article, thx

here's a fun one:

http://artofmanliness.com/2012/07/29/bosom-buddies-a-photo-history-of-male-affection/

As this new conception of homosexuality as a stigmatized and onerous identifier took root in American culture, men began to be much more careful to not send messages to other men, and to women, that they were gay. And this is the reason why, it is theorized, men have become less comfortable with showing affection towards each other over the last century. At the same time, it also may explain why in countries with a more conservative, religious culture, such as in Africa or the Middle East, where men do engage in homosexual acts, but still consider homosexuality the “crime that cannot be spoken,” it remains common for men to be affectionate with one another and comfortable with things like holding hands as they walk.

i'd recommend not reading the comments on that, fwiw

I thought they were mostly shocking reasonable, if frequently lacking any non-mainstream perspective? Pretty stodgy and some obvly prejudiced but not the overall virulence & ignorance I expect from internet comments.

The pictures are wonderful btw.

There are a couple comments that really betray a weird mindset about affection and sexuality that leads me back to the "closeted people are the worst homophobes" idea

more than a few comments lament the decline of the intimacy in male friendship and then seem to blame it on the increased visibility for gay men... riiiight.

there's such a strong disavowal of any erotic context in the article & in the comments that i don't quite believe. i may be splitting hairs but i feel there is are subtle distinctions between what is explicitly sexual and what is vaguely erotic, in the sense of men's bodies seeking each other out. putting aside the male-on-male etymology of the word, i am of the opinion that a lot of visible masculine camaraderie & fellowship has an erotic component, a mutual recognition of bodies, not in the "i want to fuck you, bro" way, but "good job, i'm gonna smack your butt" sort of way.

the commenter who claims that he feels like gagging when he sees men of other ethnic backgrounds holding hands until someone tells him they're straight and then it's cool with him and he's comfortable? how does that not absolutely reek of his own denied sexuality?

Oh yeah, even the best of the comments were definitely no models of tolerance. Although iirc ONE person did note that if we stopped stigmatizing gayness then men showing affection wouldn't have any neg associations.

I just overheard in the hallway at work:
"So, do you think this is a masculine-looking lunchbox?"

these blogs are making people think, man

haha

i got v angry at a menswear blogger today, lol

dude's blog is pretty much the summation of so much that i find terrible and disgusting about men style blogs as distilled into one hacky joke tumblr, like basically all he does is reblog other dude's pictures and insults them with pop culture references and memes? and people EAT IT UP

anyway he basically made a rape joke, like pretty much a "this dude's pocket square is not positioned properly, imagine if he was forced to suck cock in prison" sort of joke

so that sucks and i really hate how angry it made me and i hate how popular this dude is for being so hateful. sorry for ranting, errbody

^^^ total idiot for taking him seriously

just a little rape humor, nbd

:(

always so fucking idiotic to me when ppl think "is offended by" = "takes seriously"

lighten up it's only a joke, I wasn't serious, there are no boundaries, nothing is off-limits or in poor taste and if it is that means you actually thought I was being literal

yea if you don't think it's funny then you obviously can't take a joke, totally unchill behavior bro

Link?

http://nicetrybro.com/post/30314050673/urbanemenswear-viktori-19-all-my-clothes-are

someone has a crush on the warden

this blog is horrible, and the combination of "bro" with people who are trying to be fashion-forward is still a really, really weird look

are any of the people who write these things people who look anything like the ones they're mocking?

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@eightinhand It's not edgy nor is it "rape humor." It's a ref to 2 movies. U mad at whites for sayin the N word when reciting a rap song?

anyway he basically made a rape joke, like pretty much a "this dude's pocket square is not positioned properly, imagine if he was forced to suck cock in prison" sort of joke

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, August 27, 2012 9:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so that sucks and i really hate how angry it made me and i hate how popular this dude is for being so hateful. sorry for ranting, errbody

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, August 27, 2012 9:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ total idiot for taking him seriously

― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, August 27, 2012 9:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just a little rape humor, nbd

:(

― real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Monday, August 27, 2012 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

always so fucking idiotic to me when ppl think "is offended by" = "takes seriously"

― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, August 27, 2012 10:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lighten up it's only a joke, I wasn't serious, there are no boundaries, nothing is off-limits or in poor taste and if it is that means you actually thought I was being literal

― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, August 27, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't get what happened here, were you replying to yourself?

no u r quoting 2 posters

stevie was speaking in the voice of blogger dude in that last post

"total idiot for taking him seriously" is refering to tweets between dude & i fwiw.

"U mad at whites for sayin the N word when reciting a rap song?"

omg

i can't even with this dude

Hahaha. ILX is way ahead of him.

this one's a treat

http://nicetrybro.com/post/29429541108/thefashiohttp://kkkorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nbomb5.jpg?w=350&h=259-mens-fashion-flash-swizz-beatz

haha does ilx have an "n" bomb autoreplace??

http://kkkorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nbomb5.jpg?w=350&h=259

lollll

kind of want to try, kind of worried this is just an attempt to get me to post n-bomb

i know it autoreplaced "n b o m b" but i ain't tryin it with the word itself