Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

couldnt u say the same about loving characters in a show. *taps pen against chin thoughtfully*

― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its different, i love *watching* characters in shows whose actions are completely freakin' deplorable. i dont get the hand-wringing rush to judge these fictional characters in a violent show about drug dealers.

feel like hating characters is often an attempt to achieve emotional distance from the show because really you love them a root for them even tho they r horrible

the apatow schlubby man children

these assholes are all addressing the same "deep questions" of life, like love and marriage and babies and other horseshit

jesse pinkman is just living, here, no deep concerns beyond what happens right now. he's pretty much wandered into two relationships, been offered this meth stuff, and has some free will about his activities but 90% of it is suggested by others

in other words, he's the common man

im more moved specific culture of his character personally

like how he wore the huge clothes long after they were out of style and showed his girlfriend all the lil super heroes he drew

tbf he's a dude in the southwest, there are some weird styles down that way

everywhere has these guys

literally every town in america

jnco forever

I feel like culturally I am not that far divorced from the character. Different circumstances, who knows?

Remember Jesse's parents and family? They're pretty normal middle class types, you could tell that he just wasn't into high school and hung out with the "bad types" and would rather smoke weed by the 7/11 than go to class

his parents were total assholes tho

The guy I have met who reminds me most of Jessie worked in the IT department of a large London advertising agency and sold coke and ecstasy on the side. I wonder where he is now?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Geza_Echs/jesse-pinkman-aaron-paul.jpg

Double Dragon?

I feel like that was due to their dissatisfaction with their lives and their inability to use good parenting skills. There are parents who actually try to help their kids or do right by him, and his went back and forth between enabling him by ignoring him at his -- what was it, grandma's or great-aunt's? -- house, and the "tough love" of booting him out.

Kind of feel like if Jesse had gotten an education and played by the rules he could have turned into his parents. He's certainly no less intelligent, they just followed different shaping forces in their lives.

yeah the tough love thing...in the wrong frame of mind it just justifies to the kid 'oh well clearly my parents hate me because I'm loser so I guess I'll just go out and be a loser because that's all they expect I'm going to be' and totally cut off their nose to spite their face (as my mum would say)

also if the parents have a certain image they're trying to uphold and the kid is flying in the face of that, it's really hard for the parent to choke down the embarrassment and react to the kid as just a kid

fkn sad shit to watch when it happens

no its just a show

do u guys have behind the scenes infos

sorry i was going off on a livejournal thought tangent, as you were

w/r/t to "liking" people on the show the only thing that ever bothered me were the peeps who liked Gus, or thought he was somehow less reprehensible than Walt.

Thinking back on waltavo sitting in Saul's office silently listening to his spiel or riding in the back of the car after escaping from the magnet ... he's not doing that slack-jawed open mouth thing anymore that he did when he was just going along with something.

almost everyone on the show is a reprehensible criminal and it would be terrible to know them irl, but it's a tv show and I look forward to the time I get to spend with hit man mike and charming dirtbag jesse

when y'all start calling somebody out for "liking" one of them I get this vibe of the schoolyard prude turning their nose up at the kid who digs darth vader

well fyi if there's ever a BB fap I'll be the one wearing the I <3 JESSE tshirt

when y'all start calling somebody out for "liking" one of them I get this vibe of the schoolyard prude turning their nose up at the kid who digs darth vader

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:20 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, though im not sure i ever witnessed that

when y'all start calling somebody out for "liking" one of them I get this vibe of the schoolyard prude turning their nose up at the kid who digs darth vader

kiiiiiiind of a different vibe in that Darth Vader lives in space and wears this amazing black mask and can control things with his mind?

so you're saying that just as long as someone lives in space you're allowed to criticize them

GREAT precedent you're setting there, especially as we move into the 21st century and potential human habitats in space

meh - they're both power-hungry psychos with goody-goody sons.

xposts

enjoying a fictional character does not (always) equal "wkiw"

and applauding an antihero is not "yay their moral compass is askew but they're so awesome that now SO IS MINE!"

i mean, this is such basic stuff that pretty much everybody understands implicitly

there are shows and movies I've enjoyed where I hated the characters as people, but enjoy the stories they are involved in

then there are shows where I thought they are were loathsome and had no interest in watching (entourage)

he's so fucking human it's scary. Which is probably why there's so much hate - pretending that he's now inhabiting some Other persona, naw way. He's us.

Holy shit. I hope to hell he's not me. He's a monster. That's like saying, "Humbert Humbert is us." In a way, that's the point. But in another way, the point of the whole exercise of examining him is to realize how and why he's just RONG.

But I do understand what you're getting at, which brings me to...

i dont get the hand-wringing rush to judge these fictional characters in a violent show about drug dealers.

Judging a fictional character is the most common way of being involved with one, and a direct byproduct of seeing yourself in the character. Yes, of course these are fictional people, but fiction means something. It's not just fairies and wizards and closets with trapdoors and tesseracts and shit. Fiction isn't just a bunch of made up crap. (Unless it is, in which case, ignore it.) It's insightful, and often instructive. Fiction can help you make a map of your life.

Good writers tell their stories. Great writers tell YOUR story. The writers of this show are out to entertain, and provide us with explosions and people acting like badasses and having you cheer for the murders they commit, and all those pulpy things. But they are also great writers.

So yes, in an important way, Walt is us.

so you're saying that just as long as someone lives in space you're allowed to criticize them

yes

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/43/81297026_0060046d98_m.jpg

this holds up well to a second watch. Just really whip smart

when y'all start calling somebody out for "liking" one of them I get this vibe of the schoolyard prude turning their nose up at the kid who digs darth vader

kiiiiiiind of a different vibe in that Darth Vader lives in space and wears this amazing black mask and can control things with his mind?

― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well mike's a crusty ole ninja who will take out yr power with some mylar balloons and then shoot you through a goddamn wall

Dear writers of Breaking Bad,

Please include a scene where Jesse listens to Insane Clown Posse.

Your Friend,

me

Jesse probably likes a more obscure artist from ICP's label

last season's brostep parties make more sense in '12 than him to be into ICP

w/r/t to "liking" people on the show the only thing that ever bothered me were the peeps who liked Gus, or thought he was somehow less reprehensible than Walt.

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah i had a guy telling me once that gus was more 'moral' than walt, i guess some people will make up anything about a character if they find them sufficiently badass

Thinking back on waltavo sitting in Saul's office silently listening to his spiel or riding in the back of the car after escaping from the magnet ... he's not doing that slack-jawed open mouth thing anymore that he did when he was just going along with something.

― pplains, Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i call that cranston's caveman face. i love when he makes it, hope we havent seen the last of it

Wasn't Jesse's endless house party mostly dubstep last season?

xxpost oh, right

regarding magnets and computers in the real world: you can use a powerful magnet to damage a hard drive, but the data can still usually be recovered with a lot of time and effort.

apparently not, if the drive has been previously corrupted by the smell of fried chicken.

well the computer was also slammed against the wall so hard the case was damaged, so the hard drive prob got tooken care of

Plus Jesse said "bitch." Usually that seals the deal.

Dear writers of Breaking Bad,

Please include a scene where Jesse listens to Insane Clown Posse.

Your Friend,

me

― sarahell, Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:32 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dear writers of breaking bad, please dont ever pander for cheap internet lolz

uhhh too late dude