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shit like this makes me want to sharpen my castrating knife & go a-hunting i mean what can you say to this except FUUUUCK YOOOUUUU

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

I got messed up by my feminist mom in the 1970s, who taught me that gender was a social construct. I can’t believe that social experiment went on as long as it did, since it’s clear by month six of having a child that William does not want a doll. Ladies do go first. We are not free to be you and me. We are born different.

Kill yourself & fuck the body.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

murder joel stein's balls

radical ferry (donna rouge), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

maybe it's dumb of me to be so reactive to such an obvious idiot's brainless bullshit but god help me this attitude is a fucking cancer

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

well i'm with you there, just ughhh why does anyone pay this goober to write

radical ferry (donna rouge), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:58 (thirteen years ago)

Rich's piece: I've been considering adopting an affirmative-action policy toward femme guys. I tell myself, "Get into it," like the drag queens/all of us say. I just want to say that I adopted such a policy and I was shocked to find that I was able to consciously change my preferences! 15 years ago I found femme guys distasteful, and when in the early 2000s I became more tolerant, I still thought it would be impossible to find effeminate men sexually interesting b/c I figured you're into what you're into and you can't force the matter. But over time I started seeing femme guys as fully male and fully sexual as masculine guys and that change reminded me of a book about Jewish gender roles and ideas of masculinity that I read for a religious studies class about gender. One point in the book was (I'm going to really badly sum it up!) about how in Jewish (religious scholarly) culture, masculinity in men has been frowned upon, and how "sissy-ness" (the book uses the word sissy) did not undermine a Jewish man's maleness or sexuality. There was a sentence that I can't quote or find that for the first time ever made me realize that a sissy could be fully a man and fully sexualized - he could function sexually and romantically as more than just some level of sub (and bottom) to a more masculine man.

Uh, originally I quoted the sentences above to ask: What does "get into it" mean?? I've never heard it used. Does it mean exactly what it says or is it a figure of speech?

Je55e, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

Also, I can't recall the title of the book I referred to. It's not really super important except that that one sentence I read in 2002 or 2003 planted the seed in my mind that being a sissy wasn't a naturally a bad thing, and it could even been appealing.

Je55e, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

idk if this is what you read, but Daniel Boyarin discusses something like this in Unheroic Conduct, i find an excerpt here: http://neareastern.berkeley.edu/Web_Boyarin/BoyarinArticles/144%20Unheroic%20Conduct%20(2009).pdf

Mordy, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

found*

Mordy, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

here's the book which is excellent btw and made a huge impact on me in terms of envisioning alternative idealizations of masculinity:
http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520210509

Mordy, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

Unheroic Conduct!! Yes, thank you! Let's see if I remembered anything correctly.

I'll definitely check out that other book. Thanks.

Je55e, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

fwiw idk anything about that other book, just that it has an excerpt from unheroic conduct in it

Mordy, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, I thought the second link you posted was to a different book that you were recommended.

Je55e, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

Or to the book that contained the excerpt you linked to. Something. IDK.

Je55e, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5h3v2JWWg1qj38q5o1_500.jpg

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

um

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

btw her favorite song is "you look like a jew" by pussy galore

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)

...i'm really sorry about that joke, that was pretty tasteless esp. given the last bit of discussion here

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 16:54 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha i actually have that album (well whatever compilation that song is on, i don't have it on vinyl or anything), everything on it is tasteless! but at the time i bought it, i would have told all these gentleman blog guys that my v ladylike favorite song was 'boilermaker' by jesus lizard so

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

To be fair to that piece of crap advice, it is probably true for me. Still crap for other, less socially dysfunctional people, though.

emil.y, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

it is an incredibly naive piece of advice to begin with, i mean it assumes that the way a MAN interpret a woman's feelings based on songs is objective? and beyond that presumes women are incapable of expressing themselves even if they want to, god they don't even know what THEY FEEL, magical irrational creatures that they are, and encourages dudes to judge women on the music they like? yup

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

yes but what does einsturzende neubauten say about my feelings

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

it says OOOOWOOWOWOOWOWOOOOOOOooooooOOOOwoooOOOOO

This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

It's all really cute tbh, like these guys know that they're missing something called "empathy", but they're not entirely sure what that is, so fill it in by trying to judge how someone feels by their Most Recently Played list on their iPod.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)

that is so not my definition of cute

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)

it's a stretched definition, granted

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Ahh, no. Lack of empathy is cute if you're a sociopath, maybe. Everyone else needs to get some.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

These guys are certainly trying to get some, but they're not going to be passing any voigt-kampff tests

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/iBoyFriendTips

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

And here I thought those would be tips about being a boyfriend. No. No, they are tips from a fictional boyfriend, to tell girls how to be less ugly, skanky, and stupid.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

hey guys, the art of manliness blog posted a how-to for a ridiculously specific niche skill while proclaiming its essential manliness, really super impressed with how in-touch they are with the challenges and needs of modern man, wow

http://artofmanliness.com/2012/07/17/how-to-restore-an-heirloom-axe/

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

I encourage you to try to find an heirloom axe to restore. With the success of Gransfors Bruks, boutique axes have mushroomed in popularity over the last decade or so. If you are lucky enough to compare a Gransfors, a Wetterlings, a Council Tool, or any of the other available high quality axes to the generic trunk-slapper available at your nearby hardware store, you will be amazed at the cutting ability of even a small camping axe.

GUESS WHAT SUNSHINE THIS IS NOT MANLY

goole, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

going through their "100 books every man should read" list and i'm just gonna go ahead and guess that there is one female author on the entire list and that it's you-know-who

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

Real men rip trees from the ground with their bare hands

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

rhymes with shmamille shmaglia? xp

goole, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

http://artofmanliness.com/category/manly-skills/

holy shit this is hilarious and pathetic

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is with these people and axes

give me a goddamn machete any day of the week

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

"jesus christ, you're such a wimp! why don't you ever do manly things like making rope ladders or stabbing things with a broken cell phone spear?"

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

ok, there's four - frankenstein, the book of deeds of arms and of chivalry (it was written by a woman so it's all totes legit!!!), to kill a mockingbird and atlas shrugged

what a dull list

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

Christopher Battles July 17, 2012 at 8:53 pm

Thank you Josh for this detailed article. I am putting it on my Pinterest for when the time comes.

K, bye

DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELVES

goole, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

lol at ayn rand's vision of manliness being an aspiration

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

goole, I refuse to believe that is anything other than a clever trolling post

hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:20 (thirteen years ago)

lol goole

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)

rhymes with shmamille shmaglia? xp

thanking u

shmamille shmaglia (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

ok, there's four - frankenstein, the book of deeds of arms and of chivalry (it was written by a woman so it's all totes legit!!!), to kill a mockingbird and atlas shrugged

what a dull list

You can't find fault with a list that includes 4 biographies of Teddy Roosevelt though.

how's life, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

he's like ron swanson for old ppl

moesha my reflection (donna rouge), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

the author of those self made man columns i posted upthread has a new piece on salon:

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/07/trans_but_not_like_you_think/

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't understand the salon piece. i mean, i think i got the basic idea, but i don't understand the 'not like you think' part. maybe it's just me but it seemed a little incoherent

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

I don’t think I was born in the wrong body. I am not “finally myself.” I’ve never spent a day being anyone else.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

idk. the author had pretty serious surgery done and took hormones - i can see how the term "born in the wrong body" might not feel like a perfect description to the author but surely it is true even here? like, the narrative read (to me at least) fairly traditionally.

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:39 (thirteen years ago)


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