reach out and eat me.
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
cool thx 4 that
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
it'll be playing in my fuckin head all day now
this doesn't scan as racist to me
besides isn't like half of reggae african cultural tourism anyway?
― the late great, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
props to SD's abdul ref btw
wait, me? What?
― alan is more upset (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
he means my display name
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
like if some indie bicycle bacon bring-your-dog event was called "off the chain" or something
this doesn't raise any alarms for me, tbh. dumb, but not something i'd consider having concerned words over.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah goole you might be overthinking that one a bit, unless it was packaged in like gothic script and "urban" stylings. basic ppl say 'off the chain' now, calling an imaginary (but v v possible esp in mpls) event maybe racist is a little hand-wringy.
if anything such an event would be ageist because no one my age thinks anything is off anything else unless it's a hook
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
off tm
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ ageist
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
i think she was making an 'on the money' joke
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
By "my age" do you mean your distinguished colleagues of my approximate years, or tiny tiny babies?
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
Remember I am very old.
idiom is cyclical, the decrepit are almost always the mothers of youthful invention, i look forward to the day when my brood gathers about my knee all babbling "cool beans!"
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
nb i have never uttered the phrase 'cool beans' and may god strike me down the day that happens
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
I caught myself using "hella" yesterday.
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
lol at Laurel being "very old"
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
I think I have blouses that are older than most of the women on ILX.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 12 July 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
who among us does not say off the chain?????
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:57 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think i've ever heard anyone say that phrase unironically
― Nhex, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEO805O76qM
― Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
To be safe, I never utter anything unironically
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
This week's neo-fascist bloopers summer special:
Plan B in Skrewdriver t-shirt blunder, oops that's embarrassing:http://thequietus.com/articles/09423-plan-b-apology-for-skrewdriver-t-shirt-misunderstanding
Opera singer withdraws from Bayreuth festival due to having a swastika tattooed on his chest wtf:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/russian-singer-quits-bayreuth-festival
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link
So that opera singer changes his chest tat from this:
http://static.blogo.it/soundsblog/nikitin_evgeny-400x300-432x324.jpg
...to this:
http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/nikitin-27562424-mbqf-25247682/2,h=493.bild.jpg
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
What I haven't seen commented on is the fact that he still plainly has the Algis rune on his chest, hello:http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/neo_nazi_life_rune.asp
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
I was gonna say!
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
nazis stole all the best symbols : (
― how's life, Monday, 23 July 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
a white rapper actually wearing a white-power T-shirt in public is like a Paris song coming to life
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 23 July 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
The shirt's image is from a photograph in one of those SKINHEAD CULTURE straight-ups books (not Nick Knight's SKINHEAD but similar) - it's not a Skr3wdriver tee. Subject is standing in front of a wall with the band's name graffiti-scrawled upon it.
Still, an avoidable shitstorm because that's not immediately obvious and it appears nobody involved knew the reference, anyway: I probably would've asked the stylist to change shirts to have a few looks for the shoot... and then winnow out the offensive shirt when choosing the images for the feature. Dumb, dumb Shortlist fashion department. Dumb, dumb Plan B - when musicians dress for a shoot, it's important for them to remember that an exchange of views about wardrobe choices with everyone who sees an image in a magazine is impossible.
― higgs' besom (suzy), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of can't get over the fact that dude calls himself Plan B tbh
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
it's because he is taken orally after unprotected sex
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
iirc this book is about race war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_B_(novel)
― bamcquern, Monday, 23 July 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
odds of a skinhead being a chester himes fan probably pretty low tho
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
This just in: Plan B is not a skinhead, not wearing a white power t-shirt.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
xp no just a coincidence
― bamcquern, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
The Yevgeny Nikitin is a little more complex. I work in opera; one of the singers in the current Bayreuth production of Holländer is a good friend of mine (I have not discussed this incident with him -- they are in full-on "save the production" mode with another singer), and other friends of mine have worked with him. When a gay person of color who I know to be an intense anti-fascist tells me "Yevgeny is no Nazi", I believe it. The tattoos were a dumb-ass youthful decision that he does not want to remove -- he covered the Swastika and keeps the rune (which was also widely reported in the German press) because it has more contemporary non-Nazi meaning.
What's insane about this is that it's the Bild newspaper -- the Daily Mail of Germany -- that started this story, and that he left after intense pressure from the Wagner family and Foundation. I have heard from good insider sources that several family members remain, erm, true believers, and I know that other folks in the Wagner Foundation are big ol' Nazis. Saw a concertante performance of a Wagner opera in honor of a board member recently (outside of Germany, it must be said); in the audience was a young man wearing an outfit based on a stylized SS uniform, and he was not wearing it ironically and he was greeted warmly by the guest of honor. The Wagner scene in German-speaking Europe has some pretty fucking creepy elements that get most obvious in Switzerland.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
That is really interesting; I figured there had to be a lot more to the story because I find it really hard to imagine that a dude covered in racist tattoos would be able to get a lot of contemporary opera work
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
(although I am not finding the more contemporary non-Nazi meaning for that rune very easily)
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, new age and pagan types use the rune. More than those types use the swastika, too.
One reason he gets gigs is that he's pretty good; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOrdhb6z9ushe also has excellent stage presence, which is (unfortunately) more important in the German-speaking opera world.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he is good, I'll be over here silently hating on him
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Opera nazis, who knew
(not meant ironically)
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, new age and pagan types use the rune.
The quickest way to ruin your argument imo
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
goes for Wagner too obv
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
Just reporting, haven't met or worked with the guy. I generally trust my friend's judgement, though. Have met (in Europe) other ex-boneheads who didn't get rid of their tattoos.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2012/07/interview-gunplay-speaks-on-drugs-swastikas-and-his-deal-with-def-jam.html/2
http://cdn.pigeonsandplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gunplay2.jpg
The swastika tattoo is a big controversial topic amongst your fans as well as critics. Can you clear the air on that?
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
that's some crazy ass shit
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
dumbass
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
aaron mcgruder character
― Mordy, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol, otm
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder what the tattoo artist who did that design for him was thinking during the process
probably "when is Ashton Kutcher going to jump out at me"
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link