You know there are white jamaicans, Indian Jamaicans, Chinese Jamaicans, right?
i am reminded suddenly of this hilarious old thread: Generic Rap Song
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:12 (thirteen years ago)
I'm not sure the involvement of Jamaicans made a lot of the stuff surrounding Major Lazer less offensive but, in general, having some level of understanding of the culture beyond the cliches is definitely pretty important in getting a night like this right.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)
The chicken was amazing, the plantains were really thin and crisp on the outside but still a bit chewy, and it was in no way promoted as some sort of "authentic Jamaican experience". TBH you wouldn't have even known there was a food special if you hasn't sat down at a table to order food (it's a venue w a bar and dance floor too)
― alan is more upset (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
I am cool with Browner Jeff being called such if there's another dude named Jeff who is lighter
I approve of this night only because I like the idea of being able to go somewhere and eat plantains
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
It wasn't like reheated frozen patties or some shit. Also I think I heard Sister Nancy at some point
― alan is more upset (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:03 (thirteen years ago)
but still a bit chewy
I've only had them a few times but isn't that, well, basically plantains?
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
Is it Ok for white people to call 50 Cent "Fiddy"
― calum-y maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)
ok folx i have one i'm genuinely on the fence about
there's a queer-friendly event/club night that happens here occasionally called "Grown and Sexy". it's mostly a DJ thing but i guess there's other stuff like queer burlesque and maybe bands, idk
http://www.citypages.com/2011-12-28/calendar/grown-and-sexy-new-year-s-eve/http://www.citypages.com/slideshow/grown-and-sexy-37131923/
anyway, i've always understood that term to be in reference to black-oriented events pitched at an older audience. dress codes, no rap, that kind of thing.
so... appropriation? or not? Is This Racist?
― du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
/but still a bit chewy/I've only had them a few times but isn't that, well, basically plantains?
Well I mean they were sliced super-thin and could have been fried til crispy but they weren't, idk all the plantains I've had have been large plantain chunks like tostones and not house-made plantain chips.
― alan is more upset (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
a browner shade of jeff
i don't think usage of "grown and sexy" is racist
― This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)
yeah
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
idk it just seemed... rude to me.
like if some indie bicycle bacon bring-your-dog event was called "off the chain" or something. yes, haha.
― du. duplass. duplass mich. (goole), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
brown n sexy
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
I haven't shaved for a long time and someone called me chocolate jesus (I have v long hair), it made me p uncomfortable for whatever reason, but I was able to say "more like, chocolate lazy"
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)
i assume chocolate jesus would be hollow inside
― This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)
props to SD's abdul ref btw
― This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)
reach out and eat me.
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)
cool thx 4 that
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
it'll be playing in my fuckin head all day now
this doesn't scan as racist to me
besides isn't like half of reggae african cultural tourism anyway?
― the late great, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
wait, me? What?
― alan is more upset (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)
he means my display name
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
like if some indie bicycle bacon bring-your-dog event was called "off the chain" or something
this doesn't raise any alarms for me, tbh. dumb, but not something i'd consider having concerned words over.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)
yeah goole you might be overthinking that one a bit, unless it was packaged in like gothic script and "urban" stylings. basic ppl say 'off the chain' now, calling an imaginary (but v v possible esp in mpls) event maybe racist is a little hand-wringy.
if anything such an event would be ageist because no one my age thinks anything is off anything else unless it's a hook
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)
off tm
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)
^^^ ageist
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
i think she was making an 'on the money' joke
― straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)
By "my age" do you mean your distinguished colleagues of my approximate years, or tiny tiny babies?
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)
Remember I am very old.
idiom is cyclical, the decrepit are almost always the mothers of youthful invention, i look forward to the day when my brood gathers about my knee all babbling "cool beans!"
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)
nb i have never uttered the phrase 'cool beans' and may god strike me down the day that happens
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
I caught myself using "hella" yesterday.
― how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)
lol at Laurel being "very old"
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:52 (thirteen years ago)
I think I have blouses that are older than most of the women on ILX.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 12 July 2012 05:50 (thirteen years ago)
who among us does not say off the chain?????
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Thursday, 12 July 2012 07:57 (thirteen years ago)
i don't think i've ever heard anyone say that phrase unironically
― Nhex, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEO805O76qM
― Call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Poo-poo-pa-doop. (stevie), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)
To be safe, I never utter anything unironically
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 12 July 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)
This week's neo-fascist bloopers summer special:
Plan B in Skrewdriver t-shirt blunder, oops that's embarrassing:http://thequietus.com/articles/09423-plan-b-apology-for-skrewdriver-t-shirt-misunderstanding
Opera singer withdraws from Bayreuth festival due to having a swastika tattooed on his chest wtf:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/russian-singer-quits-bayreuth-festival
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)
So that opera singer changes his chest tat from this:
http://static.blogo.it/soundsblog/nikitin_evgeny-400x300-432x324.jpg
...to this:
http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/nikitin-27562424-mbqf-25247682/2,h=493.bild.jpg
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:10 (thirteen years ago)
What I haven't seen commented on is the fact that he still plainly has the Algis rune on his chest, hello:http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/neo_nazi_life_rune.asp
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 10:13 (thirteen years ago)
I was gonna say!
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)
nazis stole all the best symbols : (
― how's life, Monday, 23 July 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)
a white rapper actually wearing a white-power T-shirt in public is like a Paris song coming to life
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 23 July 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)
The shirt's image is from a photograph in one of those SKINHEAD CULTURE straight-ups books (not Nick Knight's SKINHEAD but similar) - it's not a Skr3wdriver tee. Subject is standing in front of a wall with the band's name graffiti-scrawled upon it.
Still, an avoidable shitstorm because that's not immediately obvious and it appears nobody involved knew the reference, anyway: I probably would've asked the stylist to change shirts to have a few looks for the shoot... and then winnow out the offensive shirt when choosing the images for the feature. Dumb, dumb Shortlist fashion department. Dumb, dumb Plan B - when musicians dress for a shoot, it's important for them to remember that an exchange of views about wardrobe choices with everyone who sees an image in a magazine is impossible.
― higgs' besom (suzy), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
I kind of can't get over the fact that dude calls himself Plan B tbh
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 23 July 2012 13:38 (thirteen years ago)
it's because he is taken orally after unprotected sex
― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 14:07 (thirteen years ago)
iirc this book is about race war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_B_(novel)
― bamcquern, Monday, 23 July 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)
odds of a skinhead being a chester himes fan probably pretty low tho
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)
This just in: Plan B is not a skinhead, not wearing a white power t-shirt.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)