The Wine Thread -- what have you been drinking?

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Oh yes, the story in the NY Times said a human would have to drink 750-1500 bottles a day to replicate the dose of resveratrol that they gave the mice. I'm trying, okay! Get off my case, doc!!!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

At the moment I'm on Cosme Palacio y Hermanos Cosecha. 749 to go...

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wonderful with funky St. Nectaire cheese, which I'd crow about on the cheese thread if only I wasn't getting poxyfuled for searching.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

I had some absolutely fantastic, startlingly complex, almost scotch-like wine the other day. I will have to track down its info. It was a $40 bottle of wine, though, which might be the most expensive I've had (I know, I am naif) but it was startling how fantastically good it was.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, let's get some cheap recs here, people

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Our house staple is Red Truck from Cline. Cost Plus/Trader Joe's will occasionally have it for $8/bottle; usually it's around $12. I usually keep a case of Little Penguin (one of their reds, they are all close in quality) around - good for stews/pasta sauce/pot roasts, okay for drinking. Runs $4 - $6/bottle.

― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

$8/bottle is getting rich for my blood, unfortunately -- grad student. i miss the two buck chuck, but trader joe's is about a million miles away from Montana.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

I just bought a half case of Ravenswood Zinfindel for $8 per bottle. That is probably the greatest deal in the history of mankind.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone read Jancis Robinson's books? They sound really good. Has anyone had Beaujolais Nouveau? I brought Beaujolais to a party once and a visiting researcher from France drank most of it, so it must really mean something there - in terms of seasons and memories. France is the source of many wonderful things.

― youn (youn), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

St. Julien has terrific wine that's often overlooked cause it's right next to Pauillac (a dingy, grim town with a sparkling reputation for wine) and Margaux - you can get a bottle of it here for $2 - http://www.winecommune.com/lot.cfm/lotID/1327752.html

Might want to do a bulk order on some of the cheaper finds there, that bottle usually goes for $34 it says

Beaujolais Nouveau is not very good but it's light and goes down easy because it's just been put in the bottle (a French friend of mine claims that it is known sometimes as "vin de piss" because that's what you do afterwards but no one I've talked to since will back that up)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

I need a partner for blind tastings.

― youn (youn), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

I like Gamay (the grape Beaujolais is made from) but I like it after it's had time to get good. It's still watery like Beaujolais but there's more taste to it.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

about the nouveau. a more forgiving take.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

so i just got a bottle of rawon's retreat, cab.

we'll see about this.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I've never really understood it because light watery wine - i.e. Gamay, Pinot Noir, rosé - works best in summertime.. who wants to be drinking chilled watery wine in November??

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

haha gbx i bet you will

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

tempranillo and cavit merlots ˝\(°_o)/˝

― am0n (am0n), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

gbx, I feel your pain on no TJs for miles. If you can find a Cost Plus anywhere close, they will occasionally have good deals on tasty wines. Also, check to see if the Targets around there have a wine department (I think this depends on the state laws) - they have 3 liter boxes of good stuff for the price as well as decent deals, esp. in the clearance section.

― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

haha gbx i bet you will

-- Euai Kapaui (tracerhan...), November 2nd, 2006 6:27 PM. (tracerhand) (later) (link)

:-/

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

tastes like sugar

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

What does ILX think about Malbec and Montepulciano these days?

― darin (darin), Friday, 3 November 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

No opinion on malbec, but Montepulciano is a good grape and there are obviously the excellent Vini Nobili from Montepulciano itself and some very very decent montepulciano d'abruzzo which are often a good cheap standard. There are some shockers under that name though so watch out.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 3 November 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

Malbec is the new Merlot. Cheap, reliable, easy to find. Plus you're helping rebuilt the Argentinian economy!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

how do i rebuilt economy

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, so that Rawson's Retreat was pretty meh. Got better once it got mixed in with the bacon/tomato/onion pasta i had for dinner, but i won't be buying it again.

i'll go for malbec this weekend.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

happy rebuilting!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://www.gngnb.com/Images/BD-CigarVolantLabel.jpg

a bit tannic for my delicate constitution, those aliens, but pretty great with the right food

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 18 January 2007 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

how do you describe a wine that tastes too much like alcohol?

― youn (youn), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure but that's one of my peeves with California wines. They're often closer to 14% than 12%.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's called "hot" when you taste the alcohol in a wine.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

In my house we call it "yum".

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

gabby, what did you eat it with? i think it's the grenache that gives it the tannic overtones on some vintages.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

just been drinking loads of dirt-cheap red wine and champagne, topped off with a marginally more classy glass of Leffe. my stomach grieves.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

day 1 - tikka masala, dal, roti (emphasized the heat)
day 2 - grilled salmon sandwich with fennel/cucumber slaw, peas and carrots (went very nicely, but i probably should have gone for more salmon than sandwich)
day 3 - grilled chicken and peppery polenta with tuscan vegetable sauce-type thing, beets and green beans (and banana walnut bread with chocolate sauce and ice cream, i r fattey) (great)
day 4 - mezze (eggplant, calf's liver, yogurt, kidney beans, etc) (nice)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

it was a good dessert wine

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

aw man, bonny doon makes a classic dessert muscat.

nice menus!

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

Grüner Veltliner!!

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

2004 Domaine Fougeray de Beauclair Bourgogne

― youn (youn), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to make sense of "the nose is closed." I think I've got it, but I'm not sure.

― youn (youn), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I had this Leitz Riesling a couple of weeks ago, and it is AWESOME. I am not usually fond of white wine but this is a good one. It costs £8 which I think is Too Much, but perhaps this thread can demonstrate that people regularly spend more than that, and it is not a sin.

The tasting notes say:
The palate is like biting into a Granny Smith apple and licking a piece of pumice

I say:
"PUMICE???!!!"

― Sarah, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Then again I would rather spend £8 on this than continue to spend £3.50 on rough as a.rses plastic merlot (in plastic bottle, americans) that my flatmate seems to drink EVERY NIGHT. I used to be involved in the cult of drinking this plastic merlot, then my tastebuds inevitably rebelled and now I can't stand it. Because it is awful rough. Also it REALLY SMELLS! I could smell it from behind a closed door the other day! Surely a wine should not penetrate beyond doors?!

Wot I am saying is should I go home via Oddbins tonight.

― Sarah, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I didn't in the end. I had a small sip of ginger wine whilst working on my application form.

"Crabbies".

― Sarah, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Givent that the standard duty rate is the same per bottle whether it's a 3.99 bottle of nail polish remover or a tenner's worth of scented loveliness you're actually getting more wine for your money the pricier it is, proportionately speaking. You can get lots of excellent stuff in the £6-10 range and whilst there are sub fiver bargains, as a general rule of thumb pay peanuts ect ect.

― Matt, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

No Rose wine mentions?

I know, "The Feeling" ah shadddup!

I always thought "oh it's just red and white mixed together" but now I know it's not, I like it and it's a good compromise as I prefer red and my wife prefers white. (or, did)

Does that make us Paula Abdul and Krazy Kat?

― Mark G, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are there any other good Reislings worth trying? I have always heard bad things about them. I have also heard that the one I had is supposed to be particularly good, so... erm?

― Sarah, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

My local Turkish offie has a seemingly inexhaustible supply of some no-name 2000 Bordeaux for £6.49 a bottle which is totally, totally delicious. YUM.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah I like a good ol' Reisling too, but I don't really know.

I have a wine story to share with you guys. This past Christmas, the lovely Emma B's father opened up a case of Burgundy that he'd bought at a wine fair for what he was told was a deal, something like 11 euro a bottle. (He has lived in Bordeaux all his life, and buying some Burgundy was kind of a bold move, but he thinks of himself as open-minded and not snobby about Bordeaux wine as so many people who live there are.) Anyway, we tasted it, eyes looked furtively around the table and the lovely Emma B is the first to say something. "But this is undrinkable!" Others murmured in corroboration. I thought it wasn't horrible but it did taste thin and very acidic, certainly very different from Bordeaux wine but you know, I don't really know. "It's like vinegar!" "Maybe it's the bottle," someone said. Emma B's father is beginning to feel that he might have been foolish, which he does not like to feel, but he has no choice to agree. We open another bottle. Exactly the same. What is this chateau? A great search commences. Books are opened. We can't find it. I go upstairs to the computer and do a search. Nothing! It doesn't exist! "Oh la la..."

Determined to solve the mystery and also to see if maybe our Bordeaux-centric tastebuds are deceiving us - maybe it isn't so bad after all, but we just don't realise it? - Emma B and I bring the half-empty bottle, with cork in top, around to the biggest, most famous wine shop in Bordeaux, situated facing the big plaza in the middle of town. The man we want to see is at lunch. So we take it to a smaller, newer shop with a handsome and charming proprietor who duly sips the wine, says that the year was a bad one for Burgundys but says we won't get sick from drinking it, if that was our concern. We thank him but know that we still need to see the authority. We return and the man is in. He's short, with black hair, slightly balding, and wears a green cardigan sweater. He has a compact kind of energy when he moves. He finds a moment for us and brings us into the back of the shop. He says the name on the bottle is not a chateau at all but a kind of consolidator and distributor for many chateaux, so it's impossible to know where in Bourgogne it really came from. He uncorks the bottle, pours it into a glass, swirls it around, sniffing it, pacing as he talks. He takes a sip and does a curious thing with it in his mouth - he sucks it around his teeth, making a loud soup-slurping kind of sound. He does this again. Round and round his teeth the wine goes. Then he holds it in his mouth, very still. He's pondering. He spits it out into another glass. "Well," he says. "All taste is relative." He pauses and looks at the glass. "But it's not good."

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 March 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Really lovely 2003 Barnard Griffin sangiovese rosé. Mmmmmmm. Nice for spring, perfect for summer. Smells like strawberries, then ripe red cherries and some warm faint spices like cardamom and cloves.

― Jaq, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

Rather wish Clarke B. was still around, where'd he go? Had a nice red blend tonight at a friend's place but I forget the vineyard, regrettably. Somewhere on the Central Coast.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh yeah, Jaq, do you have AIM at all?)

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

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