Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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After Saints 3-3 Toon tonight I'd like to offer hearty congratulations to all the nice Liverpool fans I know on achieving Champions League status with the same number of points that took Everton to 7th last year.

I'd resigned myself before tonight that Liverpool missing out on the mother of all club competitions would only be like Becker skipping the clay court season with a knee injury - kinda satisfying but ultimately you know you'd be missing out on some possible comedy.

4th place, though...wow. It's absolutely the best you could've hoped for and you've done it. Crack open the sparkling wine. I'll have a gin and bitter lemon.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

We deserved nothing, but I guess funny old game etc etc. We can't be that many points ahead of your boys anyway can we.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

great game between newcastle and saints! shame liverpool-newcastle match isn't a fight for the c.league tho, that would have been fun for the neutral. i looked at the pool starting 11 before the birmingham game, and thought "actually, that's quite a strong team". it was = dudek, finnan, hyppia, carragher, riise, kewell, gerrard, hammann, murphy, owen, heskey. strong finish should not gloss over the fact that houllier has had 2 dodgy seasons in a row, though.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

We can't be that many points ahead of your boys anyway can we.

20, probably 23 come Saturday. That's a lot - it was down to seven or eight a few weeks ago. All sour barbs aside, Liverpool *have* finished strongly - you were bound to prosper once Houll remembered who was supposed to take the pens.

I wonder if I've still got that Marseille game on tape? I need cheering up.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree it's been a good finish, the last few performances have been, as I said upthread, close to the best all season.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Gerrard (the Scouse version, not the French one) can take a lot of credit for the strong run in.

Would like to reiterate what a cracking game that was last night. It makes you wonder how 0-0 bore draws can happen. End to end, great saves, you knew goals would be scored, rookie youngsters trying to prove themselves etc. An unexpected delight.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

That Southampton keepers save from the Shearer header had me putting in admiration, there should have been more made of it, it was a "wondersave".

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

purring even, I was not playing gelf

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Newly weds can't spell.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the gelf thing was intentional though :o(

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Chris!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi PJ!

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm gutted that Liverpool v Newcastle won't be the titanic showdown it promised to be. No meaningful Premiership games at all this weekend.

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

which games are on SKY?

and is sky showing the lakers/Spurs game?

oh oh, I seem to have caught amurikan

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Battle of the sad sacks at the City Of Manchester stadium for the wooden spatula. Or Villa beating United 11-0 to sneak that Champs Lge spot.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

villa and newcastle still have to fight it out4 the last uefa cup spot, don't they? do milwall get an automatic uefa spot from the uefa cup, or does it go to the 6th place team if they lose?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Milwall are in Europe next year.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

thx mikey g. i hope villa get the uefa spot, o'leary deserves it, his achievements usually get downplayed cos of him being a wanker.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

O'Leary has done well. I prefer him now he's dropped all that 'my young lads' crap.

Milwall could do more damage to Europe than Hitler.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

talking of which, ar ethere ILx plans for watching the battle of the countries two most hated teams on Saturday week?

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

'my young lads' has changed to 'my small squad' now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i assumed both Newcastle and Villa had already qualified for next season's UEFA Cup, with Millwall and Middlesbro completing the usual quartet

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't bothered watching the FA Cup final for a few years but I'm up for a FAP if others are - Apple Tree if open?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(i thought there was only 3 places for the uefa?)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

eek, not the Apple tree any more, it's changed, and not at all for the better.

hmmm, we need to think on this

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes! One UEFA Cup place for fifth place, one for Milwall, one for Middlesbrough.

Now, let's talk about something else. Like naked girls dripped in beeswax.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

or the play-offs?

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

sun-der-land! sun-der-land!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm hoping aldershot go up just so there are less than 10 teams in the conference within an hour of london (also aldershot is a HOLE)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Aldershot is all too shot

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Terry Scott used to go.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

There is a thread for the playoffs somewhere.

Yes, three Yoofa Cup places - only two national associations get four and I'm guessing that's Italy and Spain currently. There's always sneaking in the back door via the Intertoto (no English clubs this year?) or the Fair Play assessment.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Sunderland, my spotty botty. C'mon you Irons.

No applications from English clubs for intertoto places this year. Not sure if UEFA's fair place nonsense will include English clubs though.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

that was how man city got in this year wasn't it?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm hoping to see the claret and blue boys get to the playoff final and then lose. Footage of fans crying always makes me smile, and its going to hurt twice as hard with West Ham.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

BBC says Robinson to Spurs. I'm sure there's a thread for this, but still.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

transfer news and speculation

Best thread ever.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I admire Mike's lemon bitterness.

A thought which struck me is: I wonder how he would feel, about this season, if he did not like Arsenal.

the bluefox, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Curiously it's been a bad season for every club in the Premiership except for Portsmouth, Middlesbro and I suppose the Gooners

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve, that's possibly the wisest thing you've ever said.

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

And Villa.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That's very harsh on Steve.

And Birmingham.

the bluefox, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How a good season for Boro?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Won cup. In Europe.

...and Bolton. They're best ever Premiership season and a cup final.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess, they'd want to be really, the amount of blown money over the last few years.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

They have to pay more because no-one want to live there.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you putting on a Johnny Foreigner voice when you say that?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not that harsh on steve, I read the post and almost out loud said "of course, that's why this may have been the worst premiership season so far"

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, id add in bolton and villa also. but, thinking of expectations, what about fulham? tipped to go down, so surely their season is a huge success? but then, earlier this season they looked able to palce higher than they did

for many teams, it seems a curious season

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

man city? top in September, wooden spoon in May - very curious, or maybe not considering they have Kelvin Koogan at the helm

chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)


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