giroud is cut from the same cloth but it seems he requires a lot of chances to score and though he's very strong might lack the explosiveness over the first few yards that counts for a lot in the epl
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
fucking hell, sylvain wiltord
now there's a player who has literally never crossed my mind since he went away
can't really tell if playing in a hot team made him look very decent and probs underrated but my intuition is that poldi can't hold a candle to him
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
similar players
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)
they are probably the highest tier of game lads in football, beyond that is the twp category of gameness augmented by a certain amount of actual skill
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)
i was under the impression poldi was a jumped up wunderkind tart who had been beaten back by harsh reality into a drudging purgatory of channel shuttling when not being indulged at koln
might be wrong of course
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)
That was my impression as well. You can't be a coaster and have strength of character. Otherwise you're making him sound like Dirk Kuyt or some other condescending pat on the head works his socks off type.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:28 (thirteen years ago)
the story at the time was that he was homesick and couldn't hack the extra attention/pressure at bayern but now supposedly he is grown up etc
his international success suggests he can do it so long as he is in a holistically nurturing environment overseen by a benign cossetting manager rather than being a moderately sized country dog cast into the bad newz kennelz of hollywood fc
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)
They don't do working your socks off at the Arsenal (xp)
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:32 (thirteen years ago)
i was exactly thinking of kuyt when i wrote that
he is faster and more skilful than him, but still closer to kuyt than pires
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)
are you sure he hasnt been guilty of some diva behaviour in his time cos i was dimly convinced
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)
possibly? he was certainly hyped up a lot as a kid at a time when germany was still playing gerald asamoah, it was more a reflection on a paucity of young talent than anything else
remember when they gave him the young player award at the 2006 world cup because everyone went all eamon dunphy on cristiano ronaldo
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)
The talented but work-shy Straßenfußballer (street player) would benefit greatly from instruction on the pitch. Sadly, he doesn't know it. When Michael Ballack pointed out where the striker should be going against Wales last April, 'Prinz Poldi' angrily slapped the captain round the face.
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:41 (thirteen years ago)
yeah but all it takes is a few savage dressing room beatings and humiliations to turn a no good straßenfußballer into a terrierlike game lad
(see also joe cole at chelsea)
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)
yeah tbf i pictured what a ballack helpful advice sesh would be like immediately after posting that and the story rather lost its scandal
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)
The Azzurri adopted a 3-5-2 system in the matches against Spain and Croatia, but Prandelli assures he is not even considering a return to that tactic.
“In all honesty, no, I haven’t considered it. We maintained a certain balance over the last few games, although we understood that during the match we can switch to a 3-5-2 if we want to.
“The team that opened the tournament had a different approach, but over time we found fitness and the balance we had been looking for, so rediscovered the certainty we had lost before the competition.
“We needed a few more training sessions to bring back the hunger to play openly. We played everyone openly, risking a few things, and we’ll do it again tomorrow.
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)
When Michael Ballack pointed out where the striker should be going against Wales last April, 'Prinz Poldi' angrily slapped the captain round the face.
Stick your Ballacks up your arse. Is that story true? Well done the Podster!
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:51 (thirteen years ago)
With the exception of a couple of good months here or there, Ballack was a lazy arse at Chelsea, doubt he's exactly a role model.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 11:52 (thirteen years ago)
ballack was injured or played beside the fat 2nd rate ballack that is frank lampard at chelsea, which dimmed his effectiveness iirc. imnrc tho
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:13 (thirteen years ago)
yeah im pretty sure 'lazy' is just a stock anglo phrase to describe his haughty prussian bearing and (in his chelsea years) lack of acceleration
the stats showed he was still covering a lot of ground even in those years iirc
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:18 (thirteen years ago)
rly disappointed at our irish bredrin to find that FOUND OUT BILL and GAME LADS don't seem to be 'memes'
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)
if the saw doctors haven't put in in a chorus it's not a meme yet
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:33 (thirteen years ago)
irish elder statesman panel memes in order of use in my experience:
okey-doke (herlihy)foot on the ball, simple pass, moral fibre/courage (giles)no, no, no (in exaggerated nasal disgust) (dunphy)starting softly and ending LOUDER AND LOUDER BILLLLLLL (brady)YOU'RE OVER THE FENCE NOW BABY! (dunphy to conflicted/angered arsenal employee brady after wenger was insulted)you can't develop good footballers in a democracy (giles/dunphy repeatedly)abuse of ronaldo (dunphy)
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:37 (thirteen years ago)
special notice to herlihy's masterful use of the accepted wisdom challop, preceded by "I put it to you" or "isn't it fair to say that", most effective on giles just after he's been woken from his usual slumber by a prancing dunphy or possibly a particularly unfibrous display by a continental 'name'
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.dangerhere.com/gilesy-had-the-moral-courage-to-swim-against-the-tide/
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)
herlihy/brady/giles/dunphy is like that milan defence of a few years ago with serginho, favalli, maldini and costacurta
so old, so much more dignity than the rest
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 1 July 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)
I can never remember which things they actually said and which were invented by Apres Match.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)
That article is idiotic, for all Roy Keane's many faults as a pundit I doubt you could have accused him of blandly sitting on the fence over Ireland's performance in this tournament.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)
compared to his previous thoughts on previous ireland regimes, and (imo crucially) compared to accepted mainstream commentary, it kinda is a bit vanilla from him tbh
― Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:25 (thirteen years ago)
That article seems unsure as to when it was Ireland actually did concede the first 2 goals in the Croatia game.
― pandemic, Sunday, 1 July 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
Spain XI: Casillas, Arbeloa, Piqué, Ramos, Alba, Busquets, Xavi, Alonso, Iniesta, Silva, Fábregas
Italy XI: Buffon, Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Pirlo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Montolivo, Cassano, Balotelli
― killer camel beej (cozen), Sunday, 1 July 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
Kinda want Italy to do but only after Mario goes off with cramp.
or if its Spain then to do so with a ton of goals, a Barca style demolition job.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
Probably get neither. But maybe a headbutt will be involved.
Vialli's enthusiasm is endearing
― Number None, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)
those boring closing ceremonies..
― nostormo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
oh what a fantastic goal that would have been
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
Spain are boring?
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
Look determined to win in style.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
Spain killing it tonight
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
that were good
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
Jesus that goal
― m bison, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
tackle by Pirlo
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
noooooooooo espn freezing/dying
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)
An Italian goal is coming
― Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
otm
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
that was fabulous
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
the end
― Ludo, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
what a pass
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
Any minute now
― Özil Gummidge (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
stood up to applaud that
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)
that was exquisite
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 July 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)