"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

Sigourney Weaver is marvelous. I'm still amazed that the Academy, with its distate for genre pictures, managed to nominate her for Best Actress. It's her best movie.

I'll even take Resurrection over Aliens.

ALIENS RPG is coming! Done by Gearbox/Obsidian!

and FPS

i wish they'd make an aliens game that couldn't be summed up with three initials

:(

this is apparently the thread where we take sides about the first Alien sequel. I am firmly for it.

Ebert is great on it, actually... he gave it 3 1/2 stars and says it left him feeling wrung out and stressed and kind of upset. That's a sterling recommendation!

yeah, but most game genre names are now reduced to shorthand, same as everything else in modern culture. FPS/RPG/MMORPG/RTS/sim/etc.

What would you do in a Lucasarts-type adventure game, or an Aliens cart racer?

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anyone remember the first alien game? great tension and the most incredible feature of having the characters sometimes not respond to your commands - due them being in a biff wiv u

kingfish my point is that Alien was a new kind of movie - the game should be a new kind of game

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jg27paw4/yr13/yr13_49c.gif

looks like nethack

Never actually played the first AvP. Did play the Aliens game put out by Activision on the Apple ][.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28video_game%29

Holy shit, there was an Alien game for the 2600

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Alien_1982_atari_2600.gif

But how was Alien a new kind of movie, tho? Just due to the nature of the Giger alien and the societal fears that each film could play off of? The first two films were a synthesis of a lot of different bits floating around; with the first one, you had the 70s blue-collar "truckers in space" thing, along with the "shit technology that looks lived-in and actually used" look that Ridley Scott admits that he borrowed from Star Wars, along with a more graphic horror look that Carpenter and everybody else was working on.

The 2nd one had the Reagan-era send-in-the-marines vibe with bits from Starship Troopers and the 80s corporate shill in the form of Paul Reiser of all people. (and no cat).

Still, inventing a new kind of game for a licensed property is a pretty damn tall order. Aspects of the experience that the consumer of the original properties/brands/texts/films/etc enjoyed have to transfer over, or the new thing doesn't ring true, and the vibe ain't there. It's like that 2600 game, or the Final Fantasy movie. The nature of the original experience dictates certain aspects of any other media claiming to be its descendent.

The alien in Aliens = Qaddafi

trust me kingfish, the "vibe" is not gonna be there for me if i play an alien RPG (experience points, "new skills" yada yada - i don't like RPGs in general though). i'll admit that an FPS is very very close to some of the most breath-catching scenes in alien, but it's not the whole movie! both alien and aliens consist of set pieces, each of which has to be solved/blasted through on its own terms, which makes me think more of a sui generis game like metal gear solid, which asks the player to confront entirely new situations - and use new controls - with each stage.

Well, probably not, but again, one of the fun aspects of each flick(like science fiction in any media can be) is that they reflect their times, and the various fears and hang-ups of different eras, from AIDS to cloning to whatever.

(i'm excepting the stupid AvP flick for this, even tho their a sequel coming out already)

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Dig it: Square even put out a game in 1987, with music from Nobuo Uematsu

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Alienssquare_screenshot_1.png

is that a naked woman with an electric guitar? Fucking sweet.

stop it