I HATE APPLE

My tech experience with Apple has been sensational. A friend called me today to tell me that his mini iPod was replaced in less than five business days, and he also got the new generation mini in place of his old one that had died. No charge.

I've dealt with Dell and Gateway and their CSRs are no better than Apple's. HPs can blow me, they've sucked.

the desktop I have at work running XP has been up and alive for 2 years with barely any reboots. It does everything I want it to do, does it quickly, and I can navigate painlessly without ever touching the mouse if I feel like it.

I was raised on Apple and my first job was DTP on a Mac, followed by audio editing on a Mac, more DTP, and so on. OS 7+ had more than its share of problems and stupid quirks but the hardware was rock solid and at least its behavior was predictable.

Since getting my latest-edition powerbook I've put it through little more than I ever tried to do with my old OS

...OS

My old Quadra used to have a TV Tuner in it and be able to do image captures from live cable broadcasts, then I could import them into my cheap, incredibly easy to use paint program and do whatever with them. I believe it cost approximately half of what my laptop did! My laptop lets me chat and surf the internet. And rip CDs.

Well today it decided it wasn't going to wake up again, ever, as I'm being greeted with a totally white screen.

What's funny is that like doing searches on my own to try to figure out wtf this computer is doing right now (I mean not even the sad face x-eye Mac or the question mark Mac! NOTHING AT ALL! WHITE SCREEN! I know how to handle the other things!), everyone who is reporting similar issues to me is like bitching about how they have all this important blah blah blah they were doing with the Mac prior hand. Is it that no one who has this failure who is only using their Mac for chat, porn, and MP3s can be bothered to get in on the discussions, or is it because they don't die if that's all you use it for? Because yeah, it seems like my sleep problem increases tenfold whenever I've been using my iBook more for writing or photo work. If all I've done on the damn thing is use iChat for two weeks, no problems whatsoever with starting it up, back when it, uh, started up.

What does this imply??? Is there like some inherent instability in the majority of the "native" programs that come bundled with OSX or is this just really fucked up coincidence?

Also it seems that this particular issue with the iBook G3 was so bad they threw the whole "your warranty is expired, give us $500" shenanigans out the window, and searching on this same issue with "Powerbook" has not given me the same results--ARE IBOOKS PIECES OF SHIT? wtf?

*with the exception of my ancient PowerMac that I had when I was 14-15-16, which only died because my sister is a dick.

I am pretty close to deciding to become the female Punisher, except murdering computer firms, instead of bad guys.

And then kind of ran away????

That was pretty funny.

If Apple store in Clarendon cannot do anything for me worthwhile like, I will be coming back up to NYC and hitting u up on the favor, though. I like desperately, desperately need this to work ASAP.

Graphics are nonsense; I had that system and just customized the entire thing with graphics of my choice. Of my choice, since I was like 14 at the time, was like a bunch of lame ass Monty Python cartoons and/or Madonna album covers but what the fuck ever.

You know what else? This lamp-shaped iMac is stupid. There's no reason the screen needs to be this adjustable, and in fact with an LCD screen that has color-shifting problems, it's best if it doesn't move at all. It's only to make the computer more anthropomorphic, more... cute. So people will fall in love with the computer like it's a kitten. Crafty to the point of being kinda evil.

I have thought, on a few occasions, that OS7/8/9's desktop was more customizable than OSX's.

Maybe they are trying too hard to make things look pretty or cute and not spending enough time on making things sensible and working, anymore.

When I've been put off the G5 iMac as my next desktop computer because I hear too many stories about the power supply overheating thanks to them shoving everything in a thin white IKEA slab, it's time to reconsider the role "award-winning design" plays in your product development.

I kind of hate the OS X desktop. I have a menu bar, and a hard drive icon. I don't want a fucking DOCK, I never asked for a fucking DOCK, the whole rest of the computing world gets by without a DOCK. take that shit away and let me pick my own fonts. Dickholes.

In an office where multiple people are using the same computer and there's limited desk space the lamp iMacs have been terrific.

Hold down the trackpad button on startup.

I will be at a loss forever, though, as to why pressing F12 (the eject button) worked to eject The Marriage of Maria Braun not ten minutes earlier, but refused to work just now.

Any suggestions on the other stuff, besides setting the thing on fire?

massive xpost

Font management/selection/preview is atrocious in OS X. I got Suitcase but all that does is move fonts into and out of your Font folder, rather than you going and doing it yourself. Uh alright thanks I guess.

You know what I've never understood about computers? Why should anyone have to "save" anything, ever? Why isn't it just all on there all the time? I spent 3 hours working on some document, you tool, you think I don't want to "save" it? I mean really now.

xpost: you could try shooting it.

Download Yasu, let it run everything.

http://www.laptops4me.com/images/pict/SNY-TR3AP1_LG.jpg

And yeah, Tracer, I'm kind of hoping that this is a display issue somehow, not a computer-itself issue, but everything I'm reading indicates this is not the case. :(

I didn't notice the all-white screen hassle upthread. Did you try booting into open firmware and reseting the NVRAM?

(cmd-opt-o-f on bootup, then type "reset-nvram" "set-defaults" "reset-all" )

so I can just walk into the apple store with this thing and someone will help me out?

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tracer otm. i often have totally differing degrees of success w/customer service if i just take a different approach.

I like a little glitz. The trouble with OS X is that it's not likely to be *your* glitz, just theirs, which is arrogant on Apple's part (shockah!). Like Tom says, you can't even change the system font. I don't much care for Lucida Grande, but guess what? Apple likes it, so I get to stare at it every day for several hours.

I do want my desktop to be prtyy though, since I spend so much time there. It's like my apartment -- in a way it's even more personal. I mean honestly, cooking and watching TV and sleeping, how glamorous does it need to be?

This is only for particular models. I looked it up before buying a G5. I don't have any problems (yet).

This lamp-shaped iMac is stupid. There's no reason the screen needs to be this adjustable, and in fact with an LCD screen that has color-shifting problems, it's best if it doesn't move at all.

Well, no, I don't think so. In fact I have a hard adapting to the non-moveable G5. :-(

xp i already have headphones but now i should pay for cheap junk that i will need to charge at night, that will be easy to lose in the laundry, and that will talk to me or make annoying beeps when the battery is low? no thanks

Sorry, I've been sidetracked into Apple lust thread talk – I had good intentions!

lol. out with you!

xp i already have headphones but now i should pay for cheap junk that i will need to charge at night, that will be easy to lose in the laundry, and that will talk to me or make annoying beeps when the battery is low? no thanks

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Friday, May 8, 2026 11:39 AM (fifteen minutes ago)

do you even own a TV?

i love watching TV (on my laptop)

you're telling me people listen to music on their PHONE?! where do I put the tape into it?

I want to thank everyone itt for helpful advice as I navigated a purchase of a refurb macbook. I did end up getting a 2021 16" pro from backmarket for around 700 and i'm very pleased, and would recommend for anyone who has similar needs/budget

I’m using the same setup and after 5 years feel no need to upgrade (unless there was a way to get rid of this fuck-ugly, dysfunctional OS front end)

I'm itching to recommend the Macbook Neo to someone

"I’m using the same setup and after 5 years feel no need to upgrade (unless there was a way to get rid of this fuck-ugly, dysfunctional OS front end)"

If it's an Intel one then get Linux on it. I buy Macs when Apple obsolete them by stopping security updates for whatever version of their shitty OS they run and wack either Linux Mint or Ubuntu on there. I'm typing this on a 2015 iMac 27" with 5K retina display, 32Gb RAM, i7 chipset etc. that I paid £100 for, and with Ubuntu installed it does everything I need. This sort of thing's not for everyone, granted, but if you're able it's definitely worth considering.

^ this is what i'm considering doing next actually

i feel like i am just over being at the whim of these dumb companies and finally want to cross the threshold into knowing enough where i can just customize my experience the way i want/need it. a trade off in terms of time/energy at the front end maybe, but i think it's the right one to make

and because I HATE APPLE

I like the Linux idea but every install I’ve done has been a three way fight between my lack of expertise, the challenge of third party support and my irritation at the lack of polish (which is silly but a major element of the experience for me)

However the increasing compromise needed to put up with the rock stable OS core and ultra clean text rendering etc is wearing away at me. It’s mildly embarrassing how close to the edge the visual and functional crimes of Tahoe have pushed me.