EURO 2012

that's not supposed to be the best players, there's no ron vlaar for a start, but they are at least good players & with an emphasis on eastern europeans players who performed well in flawed sides or without much experience or out of normal position / playing style

you wouldn't change them for any of the England team

Is that you 'Arry?

Btw Ismael, did your dad enjoy the QF?

redknapp has just sold corluka to lokomotiv for £5.5m ftr

just didnt fancy im

ha no it only went through yesterday so that would have been levy i guess

Corluka didn't perform that well except in the Spain game which was perfectly suited to him (ie it was about having exceptional positional sense and not having to worry too much about being skinned for pace).

Would love to retain Corluka but guess he wants to leave by now?

xps I only spoke to him briefly from some airport or other, but he said it was definitely the best game he saw (he was also at Poland-Russia and Portugal-Czech Rep). He did say he had a cracking view of the penalties, from a point opposite the dugouts and towards the end where they were taken. Hopefully there'll be a photo or two of england agony that I can post for general amusement.

thought provoking idea -- all managers are fired/suspended in may, chief exec buys/sells whoever he likes, (re)appoints manager in july

Wait, he was at Greece-Russia; it was *in* Poland.

it's plausible that arry's still going around wheelin and/or dealin, raking in money selling spurs players.

Corluka didn't perform that well except in the Spain game = yeah playing out of position alongside a bundesliga II player and conceding 1 dodgy goal vs spain is pretty damn good, also conceded only 1 vs italy

raking you say xpost

corluka didn't even perform well against ireland

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playing vs ireland = weighted about 1/20th of playing vs spain or italy

Coentrao has been excellent. Where does he play?

Real Madrid as Marcelo's back-up.

A 30m backup

he's a better defender than marcelo and that's being reflected in their playing time

they are both shit vs barcelona though

what is ronaldo wearing here exactly?

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I''m sad that Tomas Mueller hasn't made more of an impression this time; he was my favoruite player at the WC2010, reminded me of Rudd Gullit with all his running and passing, passing and running, and goalscoring. I preferred him to Ozil back then but he's been a bit of a bit-player.

Cronny seems to have tucked the legs of his shorts up under the gusset. He's a classy lad.

playing vs ireland = weighted about 1/20th of playing vs spain or italy

yeah makes sense, playing badly against the worst team in the tournament, giving them a repeated platform to score their only goal of the tournament the only way they were ever likely to, and then failing to stop your man (noted physical presence and goal threat sean st ledger) from outmuscling you, that all doesn't matter.

There will be a England player in the "team of the tournament", there nearly always is, no matter what

EBJT

stevie g still joint leader with 3 assists

I''m sad that Tomas Mueller hasn't made more of an impression this time; he was my favoruite player at the WC2010, reminded me of Rudd Gullit with all his running and passing, passing and running, and goalscoring. I preferred him to Ozil back then but he's been a bit of a bit-player.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, June 28, 2012 3:06 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah i sympathize with all that, but he was also in uncanny goalscoring form at the world cup

he has been alright though, and will be interesting to see how he does vs chiellini who is supposed to be playing leftback tonight

just goes to show how good mcgeady really is

          given 
g johnson   k papadopoulos    sivok    Ignashevich
robben      milner      nasri     ronaldo
     van persie   rooney

almeida >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twp

ach ken my fuckin eyes

a bit harsh for cron to be in that team tbh but then, MESSI :*

Is Reus not favored to keep his place after excellent game v Greece?

Milner didn't play in the middle either so that seems a tad unfair

Be close but Loew trusts Mueller more I think, especially defensively. LB for Italy got a lot of joy vs England.
xp

Thought G Johnson had a decent tourney (although I would stan for him I guess)

left a permanent gap for italy to attack iirc

but then that could have been the whole defence tbf

i haven't seen any rumours about the team selection vs italy

i'd probably favour muller for his track record and combination play, reus on this form has higher upside but not the same solidity if things get difficult and he is denied space

nah Johnson was one of the better Englishes imo

Seemed like he was out of position a lot. Played Sweden onside for their first goal

              Given
O'Shea   Vlaar    Mykhalyk  Willems
        Andrews    Rezek
Robben        Gerrard        Nasri
             Kerzhakhov

like if it is chiellini and he can take care of reus (which is possible cuz he is agile for his size) then reus becomes an underused outlet ball whereas muller can drift around and play 1-2s as well as being better defensively

Maybe have Rooney in a 4-4-2 and drop Rezek (just like he was in that first game amirite?)

Andrews was Ireland's best player fwiw

I'd play Reus left actually, Podolski has been disappointing and Abate's not fully fit, Maggio more wingback than fullback, etc.

I still like Schurrle more generally but he wasn't very good last match.