― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
God, what a jackass.
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
For myself, I've realized that the function of a lot of political commentary that I do agree with is to reassure me -- to say, "There there -- whether we're angry or just simply calling it 'like it is,' this way you can be reassured you are not alone, and we can all be comfortable at least in being right." This applies across the political spectrum. Well, I don't want to be reassured -- rather, I want to be annoyed, on guard, wary, suspicious. NRO's blog may be neocon fast food but it gives off a stench of the darker rot within.
Ned is completely OTM. it's PARAMOUNT, in such situations, to see what the "enemy" has to say.. even on a regular basis.. if you care to be passionate about political discourse as such. You're not a lesser person if you ignore your enemies (because 90% of what anyone says is usually crap anyway), but you're definitely more aware and objective when you don't ignore your enemies.. especially if they're a click away... this is not the same as agreeing or even giving a fuck about what your "enemies" have to say most of the time, but I stress "most of the time."
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
SATAN
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Ally OTM, i would like to see that poltergeist scenario happen
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Did I just hear that right?
― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
Reminds me of the Passion Fodder lyrics:"It's hard work to run a country, when you're dumb as a horse"
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
well, now we know the answer to this
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
The 4th anniversary of 9/11 is due in a week or so.
Had Katrina just fizzled into the Yucatan as a tropical depression last week instead, we'd be already be seeing the massive parades of 9/11 nostalgia on TV, and see the angelic imposed Bush over those American flags as "the fighter against terrorism".
Well, um, I don't think that's going to happen this time.
Mass media might decide to tone down the New Orleans disaster coverage and focus right back into 9/11 nostalgia as usual.
But probably not. Who knows. If Gulf coast disaster isn't "boring" by then, then the focus will not be nearly as strong as it was for the previous "remember 9/11" anniversaries. U.S. mass media will flip between pro-Bush and anti-Bush depending on what is exciting viewers the most, period. U.S. mass media wants to feed more passion and hence more ratings to itself. When a major story becomes "boring", it's time to move on.
I don't think the Gulf Coast disaster news will become "boring" by 9/11/2005...
Right around 9/11/2005, we'll be seeing more accurate roundups of the death toll down there in the central Gulf coast, as the waters evaporate, recede, etc. No one knows if things will STILL get better by then, by more shit is going to be hitting more fans JUST IN TIME for 9/11/2005. It's possible that "the 4th anniversary" is going to be a secondary footnote in the news...
Not only that, in future years, future "anniversaries" on mass media will have to honor both Katrina aftermath *and* 9/11, in that order, for chronological reasons.
I think Bush's "remember 9/11" crutch/support might have finally given way... thanks to Katrina's timing.
And of course, I'm NOT trying to downplay the importance and horror of 9/11.. DUh! But I've been sick to my stomach for the past three years around this time, though, because our not-known-then-but-known-now ineptness of our government to have prevented this in SO many ways had been totally clusterfucked and warped into a big celebration and veneration of Bush. And forgive me if I'm happy at the possibility of the latter being dismantled now.. and allowing 9/11 rememberance to be what it truly should be, and not serve as a pedestal for which to support and venerate Bush.
I have more thoughts on this later. Sadly I have to go back to work.
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
"Yes, that's right... the man responsible for directing federal relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, sharpened his emergency management skills as the "Judges and Stewards Commissioner" for the International Arabian Horses Association... a position from which he was forced to resign in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray."
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)
CONVOY AFTER CONVOY... [Rich Lowry ]...pouring into NO. It's great to see...Posted at 02:20 PM
I SURE HOPE HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT [Kathryn Jean Lopez]"My guess is that it will start at 10,000, but that is only a guess," [Louisiana Senator David] Vitter said," talking about Louisiana.Posted at 01:53 PM
INCISIVE!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
"Using our firm as a typical example reveals just how devastating the storm has been. Until today I could not locate all of my partners. Obviously we cannot perform necessary banking functions. We cannot receive mail. We cannot communicate with or visit our office. We cannot find many clients. We cannot collect fees or send bills. Consequently, there will be a significant delay in revenue collection and, as an obvious by-product, a very real threat to our ability to pay or even maintain all employees.
"Yesterday I made calls to ask for some delay on behalf of our employees, but I was turned down flat. Despite the circumstances, credit card companies insisted upon payment and, on at least two separate occasions, confirmed that accounts will continue to accrue interest and that they will charge fees for late payment. In the face of this overwhelming tragedy, which has left over one million people with uncertain futures, such a position is scandalous."
― maura (maura), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― maura (maura), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
x-post
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― maura (maura), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)
(sorry. kidding, of course.)
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
thing is, i think the Freedom Walk is still on. maybe they'll frame it as "we must honor the dead of new orleans by continuing the fight over there"
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
http://www.aliens.ibt.pl/COMPANY/burke03.jpg
only the marines who'll say "i say we grease this ratfuck sonuvabitch right now. Yer DOGMEAT, pal!" are 3000+ miles away.
also, they won't get their just desserts by becoming just desserts gobbled up by monsters.
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
Oh, come on. The people of New Orleans brought this on themselves. You know what it's like there. Where's Jerry Fallwell? Where the FUCK is Jerry Fallwell? It's times like this when we need his wise words.
― Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 2 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
well, i was being facetious, but shit, they're the ones still holding the goddamn pro-war march after all this anyway... We're far beyond rationality, here.
as Arthur Silber wrote in one of his posts, at least when the Soviet Army had a parade, they celebrated something positive...
he also put this thing up, WHEN NEXT WEEK NEVER COMES, NOW IS THE TIME FOR POLITICS
― kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)
2005: Expect the worst.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)
i was wondering how debt collectors would respond to this, whether they'd be willing to suspend the debts or put people's accounts on hold. not surprising that they're acting like loan sharks.
― renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
On Channel 4 news over here they just showed a clip of Bush with Trent Lott going on about how they're going to rebuild Trent Lott's house and he's looking forward to sitting on his new porch.
We were sitting there going "did he actually just say that? I guess he did"
I'm just in a big WTF about this whole thing.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 2 September 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)