GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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omg someone really doesn't like this thing i like. let me take time out of my day to call them a shitty writer! take that, disagreement! you're written by a shitty writer because that writer's style, in the context of disagreeing with me, makes me angry! (of course if the article agreed with me, then probably i'd find the style endearing, but let's not go there...) lol, go back to livejournal, person with opinons other than mine!

that essay got reposted on salon. apart from the sheer badness of the writing ('i sometimes hate-watched and sometimes like-watched' -- srsly, there are ACTUAL WAYS to express this sentiment without resorting to cutesy livejournal-isms)

its a reference to lena dunham talking about 'hate-reading' books

i've barely watched 'girls' at all but i'd find most of that article to be shitty, un-endearing writing in any context.

Remind me again, what's the things the livejournal does that most media bloggers don't?

omg someone really doesn't like this thing i like. let me take time out of my day to call them a shitty writer! take that, disagreement!

so... there's no such thing as a shitty writer? or you're not allowed to think someone who disagrees with you is a shitty writer, even if their arguments are muddled and limply expressed and easy to demolish? or... sorry can't come up with a third option, maybe you can help me here?

no we should all just be incredibly measured and give equal time to all opinions. because that would drive most everyone out of the thread and allow for more long-winded pondering.

zzzz

i 'hate' to break it to you guys but at this point you're just 'hate-reading' coverage of the show that you disagree with

long-winded pondering drives ppl out of ilx threads? who knew?

your post was real talk btw

there's a difference b/w hating something and trying to find some huge cultural taboo millstone to hang around its neck to prove that you're RIGHT for hating it. back in the parks and rec thread when history mayne was hardcore hating on that show, people argued back but no one was trying to sb him or calling him a bad poster, because it was clear that he just straight-up hated the show... and while it was a little trollish to keep on doing it for what seemed like years, he was content to say he hated it, found it contrived, found it unfunny, etc. it's fine to hate it, but when you're trying to defend your hatred of it by implicating people that like it as being complicit in some sort of racist-nepotistic cultural tidal wave, it goes beyond just expressing disagreement.

btw it cracked me up when Marnie was longingly looking at Facebook pictures of the ex-boyfriend she was with for years and years and every picture was from the two weeks they were together after he cut his hair short, lol poorly planned production

i thought she was looking at pictures of her old bf with his new gf when they were on holiday in rome since the split?

feeling like we all lost a bit of our innocence in this thread when we realized we weren't going to be getting that big showbiz break because our dad wasn't the drummer in Bad Company.

best part of that Marnie scene was her listening to Demi Lavato's "Skyscraper"

xxp She was.

yes that was pretty obvious but i had a double-think on it.

oh n/m the dimness of the pictures made me just assume it was her, sorry

i think i knew who was in the pictures the first time, forgot when i re-watched part of that episode today

Dunham could have eliminated the possible confusion by casting the new gf as a black woman.

lol

should've cast donald glover as his new girlfriend

I watched "Tiny Furniture" a year or so ago and still think about the mom. The way she'd pause, evaluate, then say "I don't care", not in a dismissive way, but as absolution. "I read your diary." *pause* "I don't care". Dunham writes her adult-adults well and I miss them in Hannah's world.

The parents made "The Return" the best ep, for me.

Me too.

I mainlined this show this week and fell in love with Adam, christ. Except my weird crush started pretty much in the first episode, because I am creepy & gross. :) I suspect I'm not alone in saying he's a lot like a blend of my first few boyfriends out of high school, so it felt right. Loved the line about 'You chase me like I'm the Beatles.' Oh god, and 'Mexican teenager' and just in general the 'come upstairs' and 'Okay let's go fuck' kinda of lines. "Would you fuck four year old me? But I'm only two" was SO GOOD for how uncomfortable it made Marnie look.

Many things have been covered, I won't rehash, but in general I'm really happy to have the chance to watch these people (except Marnie, who is truly the worst, even if she does have a job). Weird use of Chris O'Dowd but I guess it's good for him to play against type! This show also made me realize that the lady who plays weeddad's wife and Ana Gasteyer are not the same people. Also, Bobby Moynihan! Weird, but hey - he was probably his least annoying ever.

r. in our fanfic I drown them in a river, lol

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl)

otm <3 When she wrote three different tweets then deleted all to put that trite out of context sentence of Jessa's (All adventurous women do?) I just wanted to punch her. And unfollow the girls I know who do shit like this. Also, every young woman should know how to sleep on the subway with your goddamn valuables tucked away.. moron.

if you get the tiny furniture criterion dvd you should watch 'creative nonfiction' it's pretty good

This show also made me realize that the lady who plays weeddad's wife and Ana Gasteyer are not the same people.

yeah i feel bad for Gasteyer that Kathryn Hahn kinda came out of nowhere as an actress who is her doppelganger but in some strange way many times more attractive

so i watched the rest of the season annnnndddd, yeah, it's just really good. it owns

kathryn hahn is my mother's doppelganger

flopson can i get your mother email why because she look intersting

and seems nice

i just caught Creative Nonfiction - really good! i hadn't expected it, or hadn't expected it to operate in the way it does. the Bujalski-esque almost unwatchably well-observed conversational dynamics of graduating adolescents are so good.

yeah i feel bad for Gasteyer that Kathryn Hahn kinda came out of nowhere as an actress who is her doppelganger but in some strange way many times more attractive

This is so otm, and pretty much exactly what I thought during her Parks & Rec run.

lena in the poster in the orig post looks literally nothing like she looks on the show

was in a convo @ a bar the other day where a couple was playfully arguing & the dude said to his gf 'but i dvr'd 'girls' for you!'

lena dunham co-write

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zu8lX8BA2w

"emotionally complex and sensual"

whatevs

anyway, i hope lena makes $$$ 4ever

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2196007/Girls-star-Lena-Dunham-dons-short-skirt-vest-films-second-season.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

saw they're shooting this outside of Roberta's, expect more Bushwick shenanigans!

Kind of surprised that the Mail knows the word 'zaftig', particularly since the word doesn't (as I understand it) particularly hate women.

I had never heard that term before. Word of the day.

$3.7 mil, huh.

if only there were some other thread we were talking about that on

i figure there was, but didn't care to look.

Good move imo

i am prepared to defend many aspects of the generation-defining millenial experience that is the lena dunham project, but yeah i mean i don't know

$3.7 mil, huh.

Yeah, only publishers should be able to make money like that on potential hardcover bestsellers.

what foolish optimism "the lena dunham thread" now appears