I'm so in love with that goddamn movie
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2012 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
i kinda like the idea of a thread where we pick random lines to justify the spinning of cinematic crap into art gold. feel like this one`s `been done` at this stage
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:14 (fourteen years ago)
ALso love the way that, when Ripley's character was changed from male to female in the script, they didn't add all sorts of bogus cliched Hollywood-style feminising elements to her character
xpost
― an inevitable disappointment (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
John J - brilliant.
― Keith, Thursday, 21 June 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ePSAN9KXL.jpg
Kris Kristofferson or Kenny Rogers?
― Fiendish Doctor Wu! (kingfish), Friday, 22 June 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
Good 'Alien' drinking game: take a shot every time Dallas says "oh come on KNOCK IT OFF!" to any of the bickering crew members
― fancy poodle (latebloomer), Friday, 22 June 2012 01:23 (fourteen years ago)
lol hammered
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 01:48 (fourteen years ago)
That HULK crit thing is bad. Using a really terrible, badly executed gimmick to criticise Lindelof for being gimmicky? Whatever insight there is to be found in his pieces will remain forever buried in unreadable caps lock text. He needs to drop the act.
― DavidM, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:48 (fourteen years ago)
It would probably help, but it's not like he's writing in ancient Sumerian or anything.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 June 2012 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
I did use an online tool to transfer it all to sentence-case, but it's 6,000+ words of cod-psychoanalysis of Lindelof, and frankly I couldn't be arsed to read it all.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:57 (fourteen years ago)
The Hulk conceit was pretty light, I thought. I'm not sure I've ever read that guy before, but it's like he wrote this epic exegesis, and then just randomly changed the occasional "I" to "Hulk." Which is to say, I didn't have a hard time reading it. It's in English. And the all-caps things? I get the internet vernacular, but, like, it's just capital letters. I didn't really feel like I was being screamed at for 6000 words. It'd be one thing if it actually was being screamed by the Hulk, but I had very little trouble using my imagination to un-Hulk it .... IN MY MIND.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 12:15 (fourteen years ago)
yeah same. i cant imagine in a million years being bothered by it but i guess for some people its intolerable. in the early 2000s i posted on a forum where the predominant posting voice was all-caps so maybe im inured to it...
im not a fan of the lindelof psychoanalyzing but i guess he thought he needed to do something different since the internet had already documented all the plot holes and such
― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
Welll also he appears to be a Lindehof stan (in so far as there are any) - the first positive words about Cowboys and Aliens I've heard there!
He is just oddly prescriptive on some stuff though - the linked review of John Carter was very "No, you are supposed to show the dead wife first so we can build up feeling for the protagonist", which, really? Are we not a bit beyond THIS is A story ARC?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:23 (fourteen years ago)
fch hates cowboys and aliens! he wrote a good thing about how bad it sucks actually, but i think put the blame more on orci & kurtzman
― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
hes prescriptive because hes a script editor/screenwriter irl - he should really be called screenwriter hulk imo
― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 22 June 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
Ahhhhhhhh!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 June 2012 13:36 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile in Sullivanland
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
DavidM OTM... film criticism doesn't need a "gimmick" - especially an overused and unfunny one.
― 'Sit pax in valle tamesis' ('Let there be Peace in the Thames Valley') (Viceroy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
*crosses arms*
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
just saw this. it was fucking terrible in every way but design and music.
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:38 (fourteen years ago)
The first maybe 40 mins are good tension/premise building, imo everything after the first expedition was incoherent hackneyed cliche- and the incoherence is by far the greater problem than the cliche.― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, June 2, 2012
― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, June 2, 2012
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:41 (fourteen years ago)
Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:43 (fourteen years ago)
thats just a list of them in order
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
think of how shitty the next one will be
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
prometheuses
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
prometheiii
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:57 (fourteen years ago)
prometheus 2
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
prom2theus
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:58 (fourteen years ago)
Prometheus II: Heracles Rising
― 'Sit pax in valle tamesis' ('Let there be Peace in the Thames Valley') (Viceroy), Friday, 22 June 2012 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
forks/jjj MODFITE
― Biff Wellington (WmC), Friday, 22 June 2012 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
prometheu2
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
Prom Night
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
aka THE CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF HIPPY SCIENTIST AND LAWRENCE OF ARABIABOT HEAD-IN-A-BAG
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 June 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
You liked all the music, forks? Even the gloopy inspiring stuff?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
ehhhh okay not ALL the music.i feel kinda like this was ridley scott's "alien tree of life"
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
even all the annoying parts lalalala aaaaaaaareeee youuuuuu ssaaaaaad yeeeeettttttDUN DUN DUN AREEEEE YOUUUUU SCCAAAAARED YETrinse repeat
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
eh, i liked the annoying SUSPENSE filler musici dunno, i don't see films in the theater much and i generally steer clear of blockbusters period (prior to the avengers the last big film i saw was likely up) so maybe i was just fooled by a good soundsystem
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
@VGirl, would listen
― Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:09 (fourteen years ago)
Don't see how a plausible interpretation of the movie makes up for a generally appalling script full of unrealistically asinine characters and scenes that just don't connect with each other.
― Jesu swept (ledge), Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:17 PM (Yesterday)
agree. the problem with prometheus isn't that david lacks a coherent agenda. he's a bit of a cypher, but since he's a robot, it's easy enough to manufacture some sort of explanation for his behavior. his motivations, after all, don't even have to seem credibly human. the main problem is the idiotic dialogue and senseless actions of the film's human characters.
that said, i do like jjj's argument that david's goal is nothing less than the destruction of the human race. i don't know that i buy this interpretation, but i'm looking forward to thinking about it next time i see the film. and i will. though it's terrible, i'm a sucker for sci-fi, weird horror and puzzle movies.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
all will be explained in prome3us (dir. Fincher)
― abanana, Saturday, 23 June 2012 00:37 (fourteen years ago)
Come on folks, what we really want is: BRING ME THE HEAD OF DAVID THE ROBOT
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
*applauds*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:11 (fourteen years ago)
Man I'm all for this if Warren Oates is returned from the grave.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:20 (fourteen years ago)
What about an android Warren Oates?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 June 2012 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
Fassbender - Holm - Henriksen - Ryder ALL ANDROID EXTRAVAGANZA!!!!!!
― Julie Derpy (Phil D.), Saturday, 23 June 2012 03:01 (fourteen years ago)
Fate of humanity decided by...
http://www.mindwafers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Rockem.gif
(L-R: Lindelof, God)
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 23 June 2012 06:26 (fourteen years ago)
Lindelof signs on to make TV series about .... ugh:
The Leftovers, produced by HBO in association with WBTV, takes place after the Rapture happens but not quite like it’s supposed to. It is the story of the people who didn’t make the cut… and a world that will never be the same. Lindelof and Perrotta will co-write the script and executive produce the project, now in development, with Ron Yerxa and Albert Berger. If The Leftovers moves forward, Lindelof will serve as the showrunner.
Key comment:
Great book, but the whole thing is based on around not explaining WHY/HOW it happened and dealing wit the reaction, aka, classic Lindelof. Will be interesting to see how Perotta’s intimate styles work with Damon’s…”think about it mannnnn” style.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
wonder if faith will somehow be an element
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
In a story about surviving the Rapture? Nah.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, by damon lindelof. not likely
― funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 June 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)