They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

how come DNA-gloop and man = OH GOD CUT IT OUT OF ME!!!

Pregnancy in general amirite thank here all week

that was the genius of alien, making ripley unlikeable made her high probability alien food but the film turns that on its head when our gruff sensible beardo leader gets eated in an airshaft.

this is a really good point. it's impossible now to experience alien without the foreknowledge that ripley is its star. but it must have been quite a headfake the first time around to realize that tom skerritt really had bit it, and that this humorless woman was in charge.

btw tom skerritt is 78 years old!!

feel like Tom Skerritt has been 50 years old his entire life

Skerritt gives such a great performance in that film. He's the most chilled spaceship captain ever

Well, this was from the mind that came up with the baked spacemen of "Dark Star."

skerritt is str8 fire in Alien, SO chill

I would fly anywhere with that dude

There is some godforsaken alternate universe where Alien never got major funding and is a terrible low-budget Dark Star style B movie. No Scott, no Weaver/Skerritt/Stanton/etc, no Giger.

yeah, easy to forget but weaver was a complete unknown at that point, she prolly had the least experience of anybody in the cast?

almost psycho-level audience misdirection

I'm so in love with that goddamn movie

i kinda like the idea of a thread where we pick random lines to justify the spinning of cinematic crap into art gold. feel like this one`s `been done` at this stage

ALso love the way that, when Ripley's character was changed from male to female in the script, they didn't add all sorts of bogus cliched Hollywood-style feminising elements to her character

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John J - brilliant.

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Kris Kristofferson or Kenny Rogers?

Good 'Alien' drinking game: take a shot every time Dallas says "oh come on KNOCK IT OFF!" to any of the bickering crew members

lol hammered

That HULK crit thing is bad. Using a really terrible, badly executed gimmick to criticise Lindelof for being gimmicky? Whatever insight there is to be found in his pieces will remain forever buried in unreadable caps lock text. He needs to drop the act.

It would probably help, but it's not like he's writing in ancient Sumerian or anything.

I did use an online tool to transfer it all to sentence-case, but it's 6,000+ words of cod-psychoanalysis of Lindelof, and frankly I couldn't be arsed to read it all.

The Hulk conceit was pretty light, I thought. I'm not sure I've ever read that guy before, but it's like he wrote this epic exegesis, and then just randomly changed the occasional "I" to "Hulk." Which is to say, I didn't have a hard time reading it. It's in English. And the all-caps things? I get the internet vernacular, but, like, it's just capital letters. I didn't really feel like I was being screamed at for 6000 words. It'd be one thing if it actually was being screamed by the Hulk, but I had very little trouble using my imagination to un-Hulk it .... IN MY MIND.

yeah same. i cant imagine in a million years being bothered by it but i guess for some people its intolerable. in the early 2000s i posted on a forum where the predominant posting voice was all-caps so maybe im inured to it...

im not a fan of the lindelof psychoanalyzing but i guess he thought he needed to do something different since the internet had already documented all the plot holes and such

Welll also he appears to be a Lindehof stan (in so far as there are any) - the first positive words about Cowboys and Aliens I've heard there!

He is just oddly prescriptive on some stuff though - the linked review of John Carter was very "No, you are supposed to show the dead wife first so we can build up feeling for the protagonist", which, really? Are we not a bit beyond THIS is A story ARC?

fch hates cowboys and aliens! he wrote a good thing about how bad it sucks actually, but i think put the blame more on orci & kurtzman

hes prescriptive because hes a script editor/screenwriter irl - he should really be called screenwriter hulk imo

Ahhhhhhhh!

Meanwhile in Sullivanland

DavidM OTM... film criticism doesn't need a "gimmick" - especially an overused and unfunny one.

*crosses arms*

just saw this. it was fucking terrible in every way but design and music.

The first maybe 40 mins are good tension/premise building, imo everything after the first expedition was incoherent hackneyed cliche- and the incoherence is by far the greater problem than the cliche.

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Saturday, June 2, 2012

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus

thats just a list of them in order

think of how shitty the next one will be

prometheuses

prometheiii

prometheus 2

prom2theus

Prometheus II: Heracles Rising

forks/jjj MODFITE

prometheu2

Prom Night

aka THE CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF HIPPY SCIENTIST AND LAWRENCE OF ARABIABOT HEAD-IN-A-BAG

You liked all the music, forks? Even the gloopy inspiring stuff?

ehhhh okay not ALL the music.
i feel kinda like this was ridley scott's "alien tree of life"

even all the annoying parts
lalalala aaaaaaaareeee youuuuuu ssaaaaaad yeeeeetttttt
DUN DUN DUN AREEEEE YOUUUUU SCCAAAAARED YET
rinse repeat

eh, i liked the annoying SUSPENSE filler music
i dunno, i don't see films in the theater much and i generally steer clear of blockbusters period (prior to the avengers the last big film i saw was likely up) so maybe i was just fooled by a good soundsystem

@VGirl, would listen

Don't see how a plausible interpretation of the movie makes up for a generally appalling script full of unrealistically asinine characters and scenes that just don't connect with each other.

― Jesu swept (ledge), Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:17 PM (Yesterday)

agree. the problem with prometheus isn't that david lacks a coherent agenda. he's a bit of a cypher, but since he's a robot, it's easy enough to manufacture some sort of explanation for his behavior. his motivations, after all, don't even have to seem credibly human. the main problem is the idiotic dialogue and senseless actions of the film's human characters.

that said, i do like jjj's argument that david's goal is nothing less than the destruction of the human race. i don't know that i buy this interpretation, but i'm looking forward to thinking about it next time i see the film. and i will. though it's terrible, i'm a sucker for sci-fi, weird horror and puzzle movies.

all will be explained in prome3us (dir. Fincher)

Come on folks, what we really want is: BRING ME THE HEAD OF DAVID THE ROBOT

*applauds*