GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

muddying the interpretive waters! couldn't we just say he's "problematizing the text" instead, and give him a gold star?

I won't read him anymore

:)

muddying the interpretive waters! couldn't we just say he's "problematizing the text" instead, and give him a gold star?

― s.clover, Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

intentionally misreading obvious signposts is idiotic imo. we're not talking abt deconstructing the text here hes just looking at something red & trying to tell us its blue

deconstruction of the text, whatever

those recaps are the worst

yeah, they're basically unreadable

otm

that guy is an idiot

not just his Girls recaps, either

what else does he do

it's shameful behaviour, really. and shameful writing too, of course.

haha VG i just meant, his other gawker articles seem needlessly sensationalistic to me.

lol @ "weed dad's wife"

band waiting to happen imo

Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's just me. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd imagine this is true of anyone who angrily demands to be "balls deep" in a negotiation.

those recaps are the worst

― dmr, Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, they're basically unreadable

― Number None, Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

― carly rae (flopson), Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that guy is an idiot

― horseshoe, Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:11 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fifthed.

http://www.alternet.org/story/155952/television_hit_%27girls%27_postmortem%3A_still_racist_and_classist/

this show's advances in the realm of progressive womanist television are very nearly undermined by its oblivious, exclusionist and unknowingly racist (the worst kind, no?)

no.

overheard: "it's the 21st century, we don't more shows about what it's like being a rich, quirky Jew living in NYC"

Lena's show is stirring up so much racial h8red

the gif that keeps on gifing http://i55.tinypic.com/2iawqvq.gif

"Turns out, it was not as offensive as I expected it to be."

From the Shepherd's Alternet review.

Also, womanist?

http://gawker.com/5920394/classic-jessa-girls-star-jemima-kirke-is-pregnant

wait, unknowing racism is the worst kind?

yes. europeans were more racist before they had ever met africans than when they enslaved them.

the subtext of that article makes it very clear the author is reaching to find things to hate about the show. "DREADING" the crack episode because the show would most likely show latino or black people smoking crack (and then chalking up the fact that it didn't to its overall racism) is an example... or the eventual claim that dunham's otherization of the rooftop partiers in coney island is the worst form of racism, no?

That recipe for roasted potatoes is pretty hilarious.

fwiw i once fell asleep on the F train and woke up in coney island and had no idea where i was even after walking through and out of the station

i was p drunk

green belt y/n

n

Next season, the African-American comedian Donald Glover has a role. Yay.

imo the sarcasm in this sentence is more racist than anything in the show?

it's so annoying, the way she's just painting these doodling longwinded circles around why she doesn't like the show but she doesn't want to say she doesn't like the show. UGH and her handwringing over Bushwick Crackcident was clearly misplaced and yet it's half the article?

like I'm all for criticism of the show but that just seemed like a waste of everyone's time including hers

that essay got reposted on salon. apart from the sheer badness of the writing ('i sometimes hate-watched and sometimes like-watched' -- srsly, there are ACTUAL WAYS to express this sentiment without resorting to cutesy livejournal-isms), i can't get over how smug and insular the tone is. for all her complaints about the show being 'exclusionist' she writes like someone who's never had to talk to a person who disagrees with her.

also i must've missed all those scathing 'race critiques' of seinfeld she alludes to, ha.

i mean what does it say about the kind of insular world you live in if you actually believe that 'unknowing racism' is 'the worst kind' of racism?

welcome to the new era of livejournal criticism :/

i think it's that coy little 'no?' in 'the worst kind, no?' that gets me.

I parse most of these critiques as "how'd this spoiled rich girl get her own show when I'm still toiling with my shitty writing gig"

ts: knowing sexism vs. unknowing racism

I kinda hate donald glover

Racist.

So sad that Donald Glover is not related to Danny Glover cuz that would make more hilarious fodder for these nepotism arguments (so sad that peeps don't know what nepotism actually is.)

yeah the nepotism thing has turned into 'everyone in this show is the progeny to someone famous omg nepotism even though none of the parents actually work on the show or or for the network'

to = of

turned into = started as

true

omg someone really doesn't like this thing i like. let me take time out of my day to call them a shitty writer! take that, disagreement! you're written by a shitty writer because that writer's style, in the context of disagreeing with me, makes me angry! (of course if the article agreed with me, then probably i'd find the style endearing, but let's not go there...) lol, go back to livejournal, person with opinons other than mine!

that essay got reposted on salon. apart from the sheer badness of the writing ('i sometimes hate-watched and sometimes like-watched' -- srsly, there are ACTUAL WAYS to express this sentiment without resorting to cutesy livejournal-isms)

its a reference to lena dunham talking about 'hate-reading' books

i've barely watched 'girls' at all but i'd find most of that article to be shitty, un-endearing writing in any context.