EURO 2012

there is that element of Irish fandom, but there's also a big core of people who've gone to many many shit games and still turn up. It's unfair to tar them all with the same brush

yeah i don't fully share keane's predictable hatred here

yeah i know that, and to be honest in the greater scheme of things even my strawman irish supporter is hardly doing anything particularly wrong.

or even "wrong" at all.

football fans in general are idiots but rather the irish fans doing drunken singsongs with the spanish than a load of polish & russian reets kicking each others heads in

the latter is more interesting to watch imo, ha. nihilist jim.

xp keanes just butthurt after saipan...would have happened whether mcccarthy was there or not tbh...remember when he said he'd never be a pundit?

tell you what though lads, we may be out but we'll have a drink and a sing song at the next game and show everyone we're the best fans in the world...YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE IRISH (repeat to fade)

ha yeah i had forgotten that xp

he is just too deranged to be a manager

recent teams who most desparately needed a tv crew in their midst = 2009 era sunderland with keane kicking over tactics boards, dioufy threatening to stab anton ferdinand, millions of random irish dudes hanging around to no purpose

Keane's not hating on the fans, he's hating on the bullshit "oh shure isn't it lovely to be here, never mind the sloppy passing and Paul Green in the side, shure maybe next time lads?" glossing over that inevitably goes on. (I haven't seen RTE's coverage yet but I imagine they'll be suitably brutal).

will ye have a big leprechaun hat

Roy Keane is a failed manager with a lot of grudges

a lot of grudges and no leprechaun hat

i'm wearing mine right now

He is, but he's right to say we should expect better...than Keith fucking Andrews and Paul fucking Green. He's 40 and of dubious fitness and he could probably still easily outclass our midfield.

i did find the shots of the irish and spanish fans together all singing with their arms round each other genuinely heartwarming.

what happened to james mcarthy? did he really have to miss the whole tournament

dad has cancer. Trap doesn't like him

his father has cancer iirc

           long
mcclean    mcgeady    coleman
      mccarthy gibson

some actual speed >>>>>>>>> game lads

cox was toilet tonight btw

Keane is a fucking remedial moron. If he hates Ireland so much he shouldn't have signed every horrendous Irish also ran ever as a boss. And slated pundits forever until him and his wife needed a new kebab at burgerland in cork with lee sharpe, great guy, #keanebiogreference

he doesn't fucking hate Ireland, he thinks we shouldn't be happy to roll in, play like shit, and make up the numbers. fairly obvious point, and one that needs making.

doubt he needs the cash, just wants the attention

when he was at sunderland he would always be giving his rote 'like i said to be honest with you i've got no time for people who ______' opinions on every subject not pertaining to sunderland

but as gyac says, his core point here is otm

it's actually not a point that needs making though. Maybe ten years ago

not with the emergence of darraghmac, but keane still has a bigger audience

I like your proposed formation though nakh

swap hoolihan for mcgeady

i find international football fans - the face-painting, wig-wearing, "just here for a laugh" mob - fairly cringeworthy, and ireland are pretty much the apotheosis of that. oh here's a drunk guy dressed up as a leprechaun who hasn't been to a football game since the last time he went to old trafford, what a guy.
― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow)
a broad generalisation. a lot of irish fans get the boat over for matches in england.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B)

Old Trafford is in England

Hoolihan is 30 tbf

theory being that mcgeady is ireland's most skilful player and might as well bring him into attacking mid

especially if his crossing is as iffy as regular ireland watchers attest

i just think ireland needs to get beyond game lads and gameladism

Trap is there for two more years and showed little inclination to change a losing formula after Croatia. The whole setup looked so amateurish, it really embarrassed me. (Actually, amateurish is insulting as roughly 100% of hurling matches I've watched have displayed more skill,better fitness and backbone. Retracted.) It can't be stated enough. Keane was as right as he was after the waffling about how "lucky" we were to get a 2-2 draw against the Dutch in Amsterdam, when we were leading that game 2-0 for 70 minutes and squandered two points.

*in 2000, for WC 2002 qualifying.

i just think ireland needs to get beyond game lads and gameladism

definitely

oh yeah, there's no hope for the WC qualifiers whatsoever

yeah its gonna be grim

the clamour for hoolahan and andy reid before him is not the solution to gameladism

they are charlie adam type players who will hit one great 40 yard pass a match but end up with 55% passing accuracy

mcgeady is one of spartak moscow's best players, he has good control and a turn of pace, ireland don't have anyone like him

mcclean looks good but he is more of a krasic/valencia type who will power down the outside and get a cross in

prolonging the agony on the beeb....andrews has been our best player in this tourney (gulp)

howard webb being shit again

he doesn't fucking hate Ireland, he thinks we shouldn't be happy to roll in, play like shit, and make up the numbers. fairly obvious point, and one that needs making.

that's the keane trademark of total rubbish. he's a fucking moron who failed repeatedly as a manager and bought irish players incessantly to the point where it was funny. that was a point in the past but no way is it one now. this is one of the worst irish teams ever, and credit to trap for us being there, even with his wild contrarian decisions.

theory being that mcgeady is ireland's most skilful player and might as well bring him into attacking mid

mcgeady is just crap.

what is paul green then?

he's below any level but overall this side have underachieved hugely, even under trap. you look at how teams are prepared for a summer tournament and ireland look so fucking lethargic in this tournament. a goal conceded in first 3/4 mins of each half so far.

so different to the team that qualified. keith andrews the only player who stood up.

this is not one of the worst irish teams/squads ever, but even if it were we`ve still not seen anything like the best from the players trap can be bothered to run his stubbornly limited and inflexible rule over from his dvd selection

this attitude of "he got us here" sickens my hole. the attitude of "we`ve only got shit players" sickens my hole. hid arrogance, his contempt for irish football and his sheer retirement gig `couldnt give a fuck for ye` response to very valid criticism sicken my hole.

he`s doing huge damage to irish international football

xp this is exactly the tem that qualified. any cunt can get draws in qualification by refusng to play football. come the contest proper you best have a bit more about you.

it's all pointless

i`d rather my pointlessness try to play football, using footballers

I agree with you, to an extent. Whatever preparation he's done has been dire. My point was that they're far less vigorous and fit even within the confines of trap's tactics.

It is a terrible pool of players though.

And I do think you have to credit trap with something for qualifying.

Would love to see what Harry would do with Ireland.