Liverpool still won't win the premiership (2007/08 edition)

dear Real Madrid, pleeeeeez sell Heinze to Liverpool now, i wanna hear the sound of one Ferg exploding

funny you should say that!!

Evidence given to the arbitration panel is likely to prove embarrassing, however, after it was revealed that Heinze’s representatives tried to by-pass United’s block on the player moving to Liverpool by engineering an intermediate transfer to Crystal Palace. Under the proposal, Heinze would have been bought by Palace and sold on to Liverpool. It is understood that the bid was revealed in evidence given to the Premier League panel this week by Phil Alexander, the Palace chief executive.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article2311105.ece

Rafa's latest outburst finally confirms that he is just as bats as Fergie, Jose and Wenger, if still quite boring.

Bye bye Arjen Robben, you were great when you weren't cheating or injured.

i'm surprised you can remember that far back!

what's happened to robben?

Gone to Real.

As has Heinze

surprisingly tidy sum for him as well, although i suppose shaking real down for money is a piece of piss.

belletti in = giving up on alves? giving up on glen johnson, certainly.

re robben i mean. £8m for heinze isn't bad either though.

heinze means beans

If you put Belletti, Johnson and Ferreira together, you might get Gary Neville. Guess we'll have another run at Alves in January.

£8m for Heinze is taking the piss. United have got good money for all their cast-offs this summer.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/groan.jpg

too late ken

Glen Johnson isn't going to get any better, is he?

that seriously looks like they thought of the headline first and then made up the story

oh someone's done that headline already? xxpost

yeah, the daily star do that alllll the time.

heinze been means (gabriel ordered to apologise for calling fergie's mum a donkey bitch)

Gabriel: I'm No Angel

£8m for Heinze is taking the piss. United have got good money for all their cast-offs this summer.

Crazy, isn't it? Everyone knew he was available for £6.8m, that he was finished at United, and that the deadline was approaching, so why on earth did Real offer £8m? By my reckoning that's £26m United have got this summer from selling Heinze, Rossi, Smith and Richardson!

That'll wipe out 2% of their debt! And they'll still have Wes Brown!
Glory glory etc

That 26m could get you one Berbetov...

Is the signing of Belletti just a collassal wind up of Arsenal? Ha Ha we signed the player who won the CL for Barca.
I wish Rafa would give it a rest with the Chelsea stuff. It's the same with all the top 4. The things they critisize their rivals for is the stuff their teams do as well! They must know this surely?
I was really hoping Chelsea would get Alves so that I could chortle at them spending 20 mill on a full back who can't defend to replace...their full back who can't defend. Although if he ends up at Real with Robben then Capello can look on in amusement at the shambles that will be the new "enthusiastic" era Madrid.

arsenal crossbar challenge

"walcott, peut-etre.... what is zat."

almunia!

The things they critisize their rivals for is the stuff their teams do as well!

I was kind of thinking that. Liverpool were punished by a penalty awarded for nothing at all, but they've won a few of them themselves. Chelsea were right to complain about Torres diving, but they're no strangers to this either.

Would it be better for them not to complain? They can't rightly do that. "Yeah, he dove, but we do sometimes too, so it's all good." Hehe.

That would make a refreshing change. "So, Jose, what did you make of Torres?" "Well, he goes down easily, some might say he's taking the piss a bit, but personally I'd be a hypocrite to condemn it considering the antics of my lads here at Chelsea and at Porto before that, so I say the boy done good." "OK...and Rafa - any thoughts on the penalty?" "Well, we've seen it on the replay, there was fuck all contact, only the ref knows why he's given that, but to be honest we've been the beneficiary of quite a few of these decisions before and I reckon it all evens out over a season so you won't hear me moaning."

I'm sorry but Liverpool have never in my memory benefited from such a shite decision in such a big game.

No team has, it was pretty much the worst penalty decision I've ever seen and I know plenty of non Liverpool fans who'd agree with that.

HI DERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CllT_iZEblE

was waiting for that....nowhere near as bad a decision.

Aye, Gerrard's bold claim that these things tend to even themselves out over the course of a season was proved tragically wrong in just eight days

I'm sorry but Liverpool have never in my memory benefited from such a shite decision in such a big game.

Is this a joke?

Shoot!

The best I could think of was that time against Roma when the referee gave a penalty and then decided it was a corner instead. That was about as bad a losing of the plot as Sunday.

Fucking top four fans. You don't hear us constantly whingeing about Pedro Mendes' goal in 2005 or being poisoned by Arsene Wenger in 2006, do you?

I can't remember ever feeling so cheated as after Sunday's match!

That is to say I can't think of many times they were on the receiving end of such a decision either.

Don't make me say it Ronan...

I'm sorry but Liverpool have never in my memory benefited from such a shite decision in such a big game.
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was waiting for that....nowhere near as bad a decision.

It was a bad decision. It shouldn't have been a penalty yet Liverpool got one. In a European Cup Final, not the 3rd game of a 38 game season, the final of the biggest club trophy in the world - so I think that just about squeezes into the "such a big game" category.

I'd forgotten about the Roma shambles, another European trophy won thanks to a shocking decision (and I know it wasn't the final but it played a hell of a big part in getting Liverpool there).

I'm sorry but Liverpool have never in my memory benefited from such a shite decision in such a big game.

Is this a challenge, Ronan? Do you want my full list or just the top 50 since 1977?

Oh here they all come. Yes go for it.

The CL final decision isn't even definitively a wrong call, opinions across the board were pretty divided on that afterwards.

Pete...you're not going to mention 2005 are you? That's mystifying, cos everytime Mourinho mentions it I want to scream with a loudspeaker at him "if it wasn't a goal it would have been a penalty and Cech would have been sent off".

Nah, Garcia would have been booked for foot up and Cech would have had a free kick...

And if the pen wasn't given on Sunday, Drogs would have taken it on his second touch and rifled it into the top corner while Jose did a knee slide in front of the Kop.

LOL "big game", frankly this will be academic when Liverpool drop points by drawing 0-0 with Middlesbrough, Sunderland and Derby.

You don't hear us constantly whingeing about Pedro Mendes' goal in 2005

Dude, it never crossed the line

That's the only mitigating excuse.

As for 2005, as far as I recall the penalty had been given, though can't remember if it was the ref or the linesman.

In any case, the reason Liverpool fans are so outraged is cos it was a shockingly soft penalty. It was a far worse decision than any of these examples being given. Forget Liverpool, why not just list off the ten worst penalty decisions of all time, I'm struggling to think of any occasion when there was such comprehensive agreement on a bad decision (so much so that the ref even apologised afterwards)

x-post, excuse I meant to Pete, re Drogba

Dude, it never crossed the line

I assume you're trying to wind me up.

Of course it was a bad decision, the ref was demoted to the Championship as a result FFS.

I assume you're trying to wind me up
Obviously. One of the worst refereeing (or 'linesmaning' I suppose) decisions I can recall, along with Maradona's 'Hand of God' goal, and Schumacher nearly killing Battiston.

In other news: FA Cup Winners to get Champions League place. A good thing, I think, if it makes the FA Cup a big deal again. Although it has to be said that exactly the same four clubs keep winning the FA Cup so maybe not much would change.

And if the winners are already in the top three, the extra place goes to the 4th-placed club? Boo. And if they're both in the top three? There can only be four Ch Lge places and the UEFA Cup allocation can't increase, so I guess the Cup Final has zero European impact that season.

I assume the UEFA Cup allocation will now only be league/league cup-based so if you're a mid-table (or Championship) side and lose to ManU in the Cup final, no European place at all?

I don't think Michel's thought it through. I better have a word.

champions league spot to go to the hardest-done team in the league in terms of official decisions each year. think aboubt it- do the fourth best team REALLY deserve it more?

Damnit, I was hoping that the runner up in the final would get into the Champions League, leading to the amusing prospect of someone like Millwall ending up in Europe's Premier Club Competition (TM).