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amateurist i woulda figured for sure you'd read that easy riders raging bulls book

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally derailing here, but what the fuck's wrong with Gangs of New York? It's so big that whatever faults it may have are cancelled out by something truly great.

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

not enough pesci.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

too much cgi

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

that thing shoulda been just broadbent and daylewis rockin it.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

blount i'm not generally too interested in the whole "film brat" generation/70s hollywood stuff, i mean compared to other film stuff. also the book sounds kind of gossipy, which would probably make me mad. but you can try to convince me otherwise!

god daniel day lewis is the fucking BOMB (that movie sucked tho)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

He a had cocaine'n'Liza Minnelli period

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i met his daughter, now i feel bad for her if her dad had a fucking cocaine period when she was a small child.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i didn't actually read it (and i LOVE gossip)(i think part of me just though 'man i bet 80% of that book is about who margot kidder blew'), i rented the documentary tiein to it - cw101: excess (coke, egos) + success (lucas, spielberg) = end to 'auteur's era' in hollywood (gag). they followed peckinpah to the dreary end (instead of stopping with pat garrett which is how most people think), and didn't even bother to whisper 'cimino' once. 'salright, bob evans book better on both counts i'm sure.

scorsese's a total slut for girls who's dads he worshiped.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone in ERRB seemed like a big jerk.

I learned about Scorsese's coke period from the Warhol Diaries, read that instead, amateurist!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

o god ditto to that - warhol diaries fantastic esp. all the 'basquiat didn't bathe again' stories.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

My copy is MISSING and I wanna read it so bad.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally derailing here, but what the fuck's wrong with Gangs of New York? It's so big that whatever faults it may have are cancelled out by something truly great.

-- Michael Stuchbery (mikeybidnes...), August 20th, 2004 8:50 PM.

OTMFM!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

one of the bars i go to has a copy and if i go there and noone i know is there (or sometimes even if they are) i'll sit at the bar and read it for hours. that's the sort of thing that's adorable if you're 18 but sad as fuck if you're 28.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

name three great scenes in gangs of new york that don't have daniel day-lewis in them

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Even if the only great scenes were the ones with DDL you'd still have a kick ass movie considering he's onscreen as much (and possibly more?) than LD, but:

the opening march out to the battle, the final shot, and I liked the "Irish off the boat and into uniform" bit.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

o man that last one's too corny for the history channel even

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i should say that gony is one of my favoritest books ever so i'm possibly being one of those geeks

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The movie is infinitely better when DDL shows up, which is often fortunately.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently this is "gony"

http://www.biol.tsukuba.ac.jp/~inouye/ino/d/gony.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the seven points

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

do not befoul them with your roman popery

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

after hours was my favorite film ever in high school, I think I watched it about 20 times. I'm afraid I'd think it looked very dated these days and actively avoid it when I run across it on cable.

King of Comedy is very underrated!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

after hours was my favorite film ever in high school, I think I watched it about 20 times. I'm afraid I'd think it looked very dated these days and actively avoid it when I run across it on cable.

The best works of Alfred Hitchcock look a bit dated now too --- does that mean they're any less brilliant?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what hitchcock films look dated?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i don't think looking dated is neccessarily a bad thing, in fact it is often a good thing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

silent movies are so dated!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway i just re-read easy riders raging bulls, god is that ever a fun book to read. you can read in a weekend, easy. lots of fun and many hilarious embarrassing spielberg stories.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

also as much as i rep for goodfellas i think gangs of new york may be the worst fucking movie i have ever seen

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

what hitchcock films look dated?

actually i don't think looking dated is neccessarily a bad thing, in fact it is often a good thing

I would kill to have that mad 60's pad from Rope. Or any of the cars in Vertigo. Or a Farley Granger suit from Strangers on a Train. Dated? No. Crazy crazy stylish.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i want the apartment from rear window if you know what i mean homina homina homina

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Dated = this bloody embarassment of a haircut:

http://acpin.homestead.com/files/Luke_SKywalker.jpg

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You want to watch Raymond Burr disrobe. xp

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

no you do

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"he who smelt it dealt it" - henry iv part i

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! Miss Torso!

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

And as far as elegant furnishings go, it doesn't get better than Grace Kelley.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dated = this bloody embarassment of a haircut:

Well, be fair: it was a long, long time ago in a galaxie far, far away.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

here's some wank material for you

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Thriller/RearKiller1.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the only things in the world that are truly dated are codpieces and formal hats.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean I see that Luke Skywalker haircut like hundreds of times a day.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha wait I was wrong they are coming back in THE FUTURE.

http://www.animalactors.co.uk/artman/uploads/a_clockwork_orange_large.jpg

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Skywalker, I see dudes like him every day in Echo Park.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ERRB is surprisingly good - snotty and trashy, but enormously compelling even if you have little interest in the era or the mythologizing (like me).

I lurrrrrrved GONY when it came out, but after shelling out for the DVD I realized what a turd it was without the visceral theater experience. Daniel day-lewis was totally fucking electric and hilarious though (deniro really couldn't have pulled that off) and his moustache still dangles in my mind like the sword of damocles. He should be in EVERY MOVIE :(

― Ade (Adrian Langston), Friday, 20 August 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, ERRB....I don't care who Spielberg fucked or how needy Scorsese was, it was just such a reductive piece of shit.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

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i met his daughter, now i feel bad for her if her dad had a fucking cocaine period when she was a small child.

ERRB made me feel bad for Roman/Sofia Coppola, Francis comes off like an unreal dick for the last 3/4.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

that's why I don't like that book, it doesn't hit on much other than the scandalous shit and it doesn't provide much of an interesting context for their work nor does it discuss anything about the directors as artists. What's the point?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't see the point in juicy gossip i can't help you

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent a good three hours with the After Hours DVD last night, and was a little disappointed in the commentary. I was so excited about it, too -- "OMG I could listen to Marty talk all day long!" -- but it's not like that. It's "scene specific commentary," meaning that the movie skips from one scene to another while the commentary plays. Also, few details are given about the specific scenes that are playing. Marty just kind of gives a little history of the film, and, you know, there are books that do that already. Also, the DP does almost all of the talking. This is not without interest, but it's not what I wanted.

That said, the movie is great. I'd forgotten how unsympathetic the Griffin Dunne character is. He's not just some lonely schmuck who has bad luck, he's a lecherous bore who sets out to get laid, and would just as soon fuck the roommate as the girl he came to see. He only becomes sympathetic after his situation becomes *impossible*.

Question: what's with the Wizard of Oz shit? Is there anything to the fact that all the women he meets wear yellow, or that he just wants to go home?

Today: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and all the new Goodfellas stuff. I'm a little less optimistic about the commentary than I was when I started.

― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Good thing I have this rented for two days. No way I can watch the extras immediately after watching the movie. It's such a fucking knockout. I need a rest.

― Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

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