OAKLAND

a "city" where nobody lives, but everybody shops!

Yeah alot of my mail is addressed to E'ville. (xp)

took me two hours to get from my place near the lake to downtown sf this morning. thanks bart fire.

fate was kind and my weekly SF work night was yesterday and not today.

FBI violent crime stats indicate Oakland is the 4th most dangerous city in America and the most dangerous city in California.

since when is this news?!?

Emeryville is like the Delaware of the Bay area.

oakland's not quite EPA but the one time i visited someone at the acorn projects i heard gunshots three times in two hours

emeryville is the most depressing place in east bay imo

At least Cafe Biere is there. Try spending a day in Rodeo.

xp - we were at 6th most dangerous for several years. we're moving on up!

ok, good point. for some reason in my mind the east bay is bounded by richmond and hayward on the N/S and the hayward fault / berkeley hills / contra costa range on the east

rodeo and all those random places like dublin and pleasanton and antioch fall into the same category in my mind as tracy and gilroy

antioch and gilroy are very similar. n.b. gilroy is where i spent the first 17 years of my life.

That must have been...something. (Folks are in Carmel, know San Juan Bautista well enough.)

home of garlic ice cream

xp - my parents are from Monterey; most of the extended family live there. My dad's dad, stepmom, and half-brother lived in Carmel when I was growing up. Carmel seemed really really boring.

Fwiw, good dining here: Plum

Carmel is indeed very somnolent. But as I have always had that somnolent side, no worries. Dad grew up there, he and mom moved there in 1994 so it's become home by default.

It took Ytth about 2 hours total to get to SoMa this morning (including walking to bart and then walking home again).

Plum used to be a decent cheap chinese place. R.I.P.

xp Ned: so I don't need to ask if you went to Carmel High w/my dad's half-bro

Hahah not I -- Dad was Navy, I mostly grew up in San Diego. My dad himself went to Carmel High, though, class of '58. His goal was to teach there but another position opened up elsewhere and he did his years of teaching work with them instead.

ned i thought you mostly grew up in coronado, NOT san diego

i could probably deal w/ gilroy, you're real close to santa cruz and san jose

coronado aka NOT SAN DIEGO

My grandfather taught at the Navy School.

Us versus the barbarian hinterlands of Not Coronado.

Keep in mind that when I think of San Diego County these days I just think of Escondido fundamentalist racists.

Navy School is great, BTW, love how they just took over a hotel in WWII and said 'fuck it, ours now.'

when I think of San Diego County, I think of Santee and El Cajon and the Unarians.

I wouldn't mind thinking of Julian more often, really.

i could probably deal w/ gilroy, you're real close to santa cruz and san jose

close in SoCal terms, maybe. It's at least 30 minutes by car to either.

Oh god, the Unarians. <3

the Unarian temple and a burrito place are the only good things about El Cajon iirc

heh, i commute every day from university heights to san marcos, which is 35 miles, almost exactly the same distance as san jose -> gilroy and santa cruz -> gilroy

anyway ... i will have been an oakland resident 15 years come November

I find Gilroy pleasant enough, but I'd probably feel differently if I had had to grow up there

Gilroy really <3's Wal-Mart

I will be 16 years in the east bay beginning in August, when I first moved into the Cal dorms and fell in love with the smell of eucalyptus trees.

the unarians have all converted to galactic federation of light, i think

iirc i hated the dorms, but i was in unit 3, not foothill or wherever you were that was near enough to eucalyptus

i think i really fell in love w/ the bay area when i lived in between northside andronico's and the pacific school of religion and i would walk arch street each day to get to school

i pretty much live where i live in san diego because it reminds me of berkeley / palo alto / etc

also ned escondido is becoming quite nice and the poorer parts are mostly hispanic now, the racists seem to have been displaced to outer fallbrook and east ramona

it is actually amazing how fancy places like vista and san marcos and rancho bernardo are becoming as even homes in leucadia and carlsbad and oceanside are now routinely selling in the millions

Oh god, the Unarians. <3

^here you go, enjoy!:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5654479510143537232#

^here you go, enjoy!:

Yup. Have spent many an hour chopping up this stuff in Premiere only to not use it for anything.

'i think i really fell in love w/ the bay area when i lived in between northside andronico's and the pacific school of religion and i would walk arch street each day to get to school"

right up in my old neighborhood!

I live in S. Berkeley now and I hear plenty of gunshots there as well. Someone got gunned down around the corner from my house.

anyway I casual carpooled into SF today, took 25 minutes. I hate BART in the morning.

iirc i hated the dorms, but i was in unit 3, not foothill or wherever you were that was near enough to eucalyptus

heey I was also in unit 3

like a decade later

i was in the one next to haste-channing facing south ... forget the name ... think it started with a p?

google sez priestley

I was in ida sproul in the 3-person suite at the bottom. we got our own kitchen and shower but were (for better or worse) isolated from the rest of the dorm.

that's the one!

you really missed out on the coed bathrooms :-/

did the unit 3 cafeteria suck when you were there too?

lunch and breakfast weren't that bad (veggie burgers or pbj and cereal or toast every day ftw) but dinner was absolutely dire

i ate an awful lot of rice and steamed vegetables w soy sauce