Jacques Rivette

glad someone enjoyed c&j, but boy was i worried when i saw this thread revived (iirc another ilxor posted that rivette was seriously ill at the moment.)

gonna see "l'amour fou".
what to expect?

greatness.

j/k - haven't watched my copy of "L'amour fou" yet but I expect it's magnificent. + a young Bulle Ogier...

i'm halfway through - so the dude doesn't change his cloths for the whole movie?!

my answer was to expect length.

"Out 1" has been smuggled on youtube.

See you next year..

Haha! Me too!

english subs?

and the DVD release has been put back until march next year and tbh i'd be amazed if it surfaced then given that it's been delayed a few times already.

Yes english subs - an old broadcast from Italian TV

so much better than L'amour Fou imo..

hope you're going to watch out one:spectre straight after, xyzzzzz :-)

the user that uploaded the movie, Rick Petaccio, is THE MAN:
great cinema:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7GS1WbfteCpn4idCwmVFsw

Can you put up a link for the last part? (I looked and couldn't figure it out.) I don't feel like watching the whole 13 hours again--but I want to see that great final shot!

L'Amour Fou, Le Pont du Nord, and Celine and Julie are all being screened on 35mm nearby soon. I'm prob going to see Celine and Julie but I have a short attention span and it's difficult for me to sit through entire films w/o getting sleepy, esp if they're slow (I started nodding off during the last 20 minutes of The Color of Pomegranates last night). Are the other two like OMG totally worth it?

I caught 35mm sceening of Le Pont du Nord last month. It's like a shorter & less whimsical C&J. It also helps if you know a little about late '70s domestic European terrorism (Mesrine, Baader-Meinhof) going in, as what story there is in the film concerns the fallout from that stuff. It's also not as easy a film to drift in and out of like you can with C&J.

I'm thinking I am only going to see one of them and it's prob going to be C&J

The new print of C&J is very nice.

LPDN is not so hot imo but tbh there are worse things you could do with your time than go, see its deeply-hued paris & drift in & out of sleep without noticeably missing 'plot'

L'Amour Fou has, at least in the UK, been the most difficult to see of all the major Rivettes. As I'm sure I mentioned upthread, the print shown at the National Film Theatre's complete Rivette retrospective was in terrible terrible condition - so if this is a newly struck print then that would be the one to go for, at least from a trainspottery pov (again, I don't think L'Amour Fou is available anywhere in the world on DVD, whereas C&J, as Rivette's most 'popular' film, is easily accessible, and in the UK Masters of Cinema have just brought out a new disc of Port Du Nord). L'Amour Fou was partially shot on 16mm, so when projected at 35mm those sequences have a real grainy beauty, and Bulle Ogier is amazing in it.

But from an entertainment POV, Celine and Julie is the one to go for - and the slippage between dream and reality is even more pronounced in it, making it the perfect film to drift off to.

Saline & Julie tomorrow!! Is this a thing to get stoned for or will I like actually fall asleep?

I got stoned and accidentally watched Werkmeister Harmonies once w/ some friends and it was so boring I made an excuse halfway through the film and left :-/

Saline !

Always thought it was fresh-water boating.

It turns out that S&JGB is a v fun movie even though it is v slow and boring and you fall asleep during it

Saw a Claire Denis documentary on him tonight. Basically a long interview with Serge Daney. Rivette's shot in a way that makes him look like Charlie Watts at times.

just saw La Belle Noiseuse and yeah both Rivettes I've seen have been absolutely fucking incredible - so intense, so genuinely profound. want to live in his movies

Love him. I hope he's doing well.

"Celine & Julie" was one of those films that I found sooooooo tiring to sit through but when it was done I was like "Oh damn that was kind of wonderful!"

but still with no desire to ever see it again. It's like I want to have seen his films but don't want to actually have to deal w/ sitting through them.

They're worth sitting through, IMHO.

http://sensesofcinema.com/2014/2014-melbourne-international-film-festival-dossier/thirteen-others-formed-a-strange-crew-jean-pierre-leauds-performance-in-out-1-by-jacques-rivette/

Out 1 will be "restored," distributed digitally

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=16598

i can't imagine finding 13 hours (?) to watch that!

i'm kind of a rivette agnostic. i seem to be the only cinephile in existence who doesn't like "celine and julie," though i like his later stuff (like "secret defense" and "va savoir") to different degrees. or at least i did when i saw them 10–15 years ago.

i seem to be the only cinephile in existence who doesn't like "celine and julie,"

hallooooo

you know the story that Kael stomped out of it midway, yelling "I'm going to the movies!"

yeah me three tbh

I mean I enjoy ~having seen~ the film but I did NOT enjoy seeing it.

ha! I guess i'm not alone.

i watched it all the way through once, was intermittently entertained but mostly annoyed by the aggressive whimsy. tried seeing it again years later, left after about 40 minutes once i realized it was strictly diminishing returns.

i guess i'm just not on rivette-in-the-1970s wavelength.

i mean, i like wes anderson movies, so obviously i'm not allergic to whimsy. but i guess i felt like there was a lack of compensating virtues... like, in some cases, basic filmmaking skill. (ouch, sorry.)

my guess is that once more people actually see "out one" it'll largely cease to have its mystique as one of the greatest films of all time (which is mostly due to jonathan rosenbaum's hyping it for decades)

but who knows, maybe it really is an astonishment. i'll never know, frankly.

i mean, there are feuillade serials--entire serials!--i've never seen, and those are way farther up in the queue.

http://www.organicmechanic.org/scratch/outsiders1.jpg

this is excellent news and I will watch it

c&jveb is easily one of the greatest movies i've seen, if i may punctuate the naysaying parade briefly, and la belle noiseuse not too far behind

Love Rivette and have watched both versions of Out 1. The 13 hour version is all extreme peaks and valleys. The theatre stuff gets tedious - but then I'm not a huge fan of Living Theatre-type extreme theatrics. And there's a whole lot of that here. Juliette Berto is great in this, though.

Also ... F*** Kael :)

idg kael, she seems to be in disagreement with me most of the time, is she the popism of cinecrit or something lol

it's too bad we never got a PK review of this movie explaining why it "doesn't work" and filled with lots of snappy, colorful descriptions of the two lead actresses

i can't imagine finding 13 hours (?) to watch that!

People are finding 50+ hours to watch tripe like Game of Thrones and Mad Men, surely there will be time for this.