immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

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yeah - I think his resentment also stems from being the child of immigrants, ie someone who ought to be better at navigating the whirls and whorls of the restaurant business than his FOB forbears, but is still losing out to the famous white pastry chef who happened to marry into a Mexican family

chris paul george hill (dayo), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

i get the resentment. and totally understand the immigrant resentment. and feeling left out in a country that just keeps taking your shit and making it seem like a novelty. and, mexico, i am deeply sorry.

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

there is no real answer to cultural imperialism. just make your food and be true to yourself. that's all you can do. and kill white people.

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

eat white people

dell (del), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

we are talking about a country that made this. and supposedly ate it. some crazy motherfuckers. watch your back.

https://fbcdn_sphotos_c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/547553_3701821697805_1511526505_n.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

is that a weight watchers recipe card in the sense that those lists of public enemies are CIA playing cards

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

there's broccoli!

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

mods pls nsfw this thread

dell (del), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

is that pasta? cabbage? lemon rind?

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

grilled onions, presumably

thomp, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

no, apparently sauerkraut

this one is better:

http://www.greenstardesign.com/blog/barf_dog.jpg

3 slices bacon
½ cup chopped onion
1 can Cream of Chicken Soup
¼ cup milk
3 cups sliced cooked potatoes
1 ½ cups cooked cut green beans
1 pound frankfurters

Heat oven to 350°. Crisply fry bacon slices, crumble and set aside. Drain off excess bacon fat and brown onions in remaining drippings. Stir in soup, milk, potatoes and green beans. Pour into a 1 ½ quart casserole. Cut frankfurters in half, and stand up around the edge of the baking dish. Bake for 30 minutes, top with bacon and serve.

Serves:4
Preparation time: 50 minutes
Approximate calories per serving: 520

thomp, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

I hear white people are trying to sing the blues too. When Muddy Waters was asked whether they could, he supposedly said, "Sure why not, I have a dog that can bark the blues."

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

if your recipe looks simultaneously like excrement AND genitalia then...

plus the broccoli isn't overcooked enough for that era!

dell (del), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Mayonnaise and cream of mushroom soup are implicated in so much of this shit, thry're like the Bat-signal of shitty American taste trends.

indian rope trick (remy bean), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

final step: push Frankfurter Volcano into trash, eat marigolds

xxxp

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

xp
ahem JELLO MOLDS

with marshmallows in case you're feeling especially gelatin-deficient

dell (del), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

is there an opportunity to revitalize cream-of-whatsit soup & frankfurt casseroles for cosmopolitan yelpers? maybe a charmingly kitschy bistro called "haute dish" or something?

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

p sure they're balloon sculptures scott

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

btw i know tater tots have been reclaimed already, there is a place here that does tater tot poutine

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

there are those kinda faux diner places that have apple brown betty and tuna casserole "with a modern twist". but nothing as extreme as frankfurter spectacular.

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

maybe a charmingly kitschy bistro called "haute dish" or something?

there is a restaurant here with that actual name

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

think of how long people were torturing the humble mashed potato. those potatoes didn't know what hit them.

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

all the new american places have those kinda throwback/futuristic dishes. i love a fancy mac & cheese. there is some great cheese out there!

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

there's also a place called "cafeteria" that i am fairly sure serves everything in plastic trays with the multiple compartments. never been there. it's always busy.

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

a table of itinerant foodies going crazy over a cilantro-infused pineapple jello mold, taking DSLR snaps of the house-made stovetop stuffing crust on their turkey casserole

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

fronting ground zero

http://www.haute-dish.com/

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

i would take a gift card; their beer list isn't bad.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

haha wow, that actually exists.

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

would eat

thomp, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

inevitable last frontier will be the place called Le Dumpster. foodie diving behind supermarkets will be the ultimate in locavore sustainability. still think the new yorker article on the "fad" of "foraging" signals endtimes. you can get FOOD right out of the GROUND! who knew?

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

that belongs on the future foodie trends thread though.

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Shit White People Eat

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

this dude's food is pretty good, even if the atmosphere is a bit much and the decor borders on/crosses the line to bad tase: http://newasiancuisine.com/5179-zak-pelaccio.html

s.clover, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

maybe it's cause I grew up on ground beef casseroles bound w/cream of mushroom soup & mayonnaise, but beyond the LOLs those frankfurter dishes don't strike me as more outlandish and/or indigestible than some of the stuff I read about in high-end restaurant reviews

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

there is nothing left to do but invent entirely new foods, foods incomprehensible to human perception, foods whose very flavors come at the cost of sanity

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

At The Mushrooms of Madness

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

haha

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

even then some foodie would one-up you - "ah the manna from heaven I had in the middle east was better"

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

there is nothing left to do but invent entirely new foods, foods incomprehensible to human perception, foods whose very flavors come at the cost of sanity

ilx has done this before: dr. strongo's neuvo cuisine.

Aimless, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

an appetizer that turns into a dessert as you eat

real men have been preparing manly dishes for centuries (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

does the appropriation of eastern european foods work differently than that of Latin American or Asian foods?

Euler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

besides generally being less yummy

Euler, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

maybe it's cause I grew up on ground beef casseroles bound w/cream of mushroom soup & mayonnaise

Had this at an elementary school potluck last night, it was amazing and I went back for seconds.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

there were tater tots in it too, obviously.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha my mom made that tater tots casserole 1000x

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

does the appropriation of eastern european foods work differently than that of Latin American or Asian foods?

Data point: the hipster Russian dumpling shop here went out of business. Pelmeni were the only menu item and the in-house music was provided by LPs played on a fetishistically displayed wood-cabinet record player. I miss it, actually.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha my mom made that tater tots casserole 1000x

Just trying to say that this kind of food is not somehow far away in time or space; people around this great nation are eating tater tot casserole as we speak. They sell it in the grocery store prepared-food case here right next to the eel sushi and roasted beet salad.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

I don't have a horse in the 'authenticity' race, but I do think pan-Asian places are frequently pretty bad. I think they cast too wide a net, as in "we're going to cook you region-specific food, from a region comprised of more than half of the earth's population and containing every conceivable biome and ingredient and also there will be probably be ginger"

indian rope trick (remy bean), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

this is fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epoIPgQrAyQ

scott seward, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link


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