immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

like, the thing he said about food being all chinese-americans have in this country; as you rightly point out, scott, that's not true! but i get how it could feel true! i have heard myself get weirdly culturally nationalistic when indian food gets brought up in conversation and been like, what is this about???

yeah - I think his resentment also stems from being the child of immigrants, ie someone who ought to be better at navigating the whirls and whorls of the restaurant business than his FOB forbears, but is still losing out to the famous white pastry chef who happened to marry into a Mexican family

i get the resentment. and totally understand the immigrant resentment. and feeling left out in a country that just keeps taking your shit and making it seem like a novelty. and, mexico, i am deeply sorry.

there is no real answer to cultural imperialism. just make your food and be true to yourself. that's all you can do. and kill white people.

eat white people

we are talking about a country that made this. and supposedly ate it. some crazy motherfuckers. watch your back.

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is that a weight watchers recipe card in the sense that those lists of public enemies are CIA playing cards

there's broccoli!

mods pls nsfw this thread

is that pasta? cabbage? lemon rind?

grilled onions, presumably

no, apparently sauerkraut

this one is better:

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3 slices bacon
½ cup chopped onion
1 can Cream of Chicken Soup
¼ cup milk
3 cups sliced cooked potatoes
1 ½ cups cooked cut green beans
1 pound frankfurters

Heat oven to 350°. Crisply fry bacon slices, crumble and set aside. Drain off excess bacon fat and brown onions in remaining drippings. Stir in soup, milk, potatoes and green beans. Pour into a 1 ½ quart casserole. Cut frankfurters in half, and stand up around the edge of the baking dish. Bake for 30 minutes, top with bacon and serve.

Serves:4
Preparation time: 50 minutes
Approximate calories per serving: 520

I hear white people are trying to sing the blues too. When Muddy Waters was asked whether they could, he supposedly said, "Sure why not, I have a dog that can bark the blues."

if your recipe looks simultaneously like excrement AND genitalia then...

plus the broccoli isn't overcooked enough for that era!

Mayonnaise and cream of mushroom soup are implicated in so much of this shit, thry're like the Bat-signal of shitty American taste trends.

final step: push Frankfurter Volcano into trash, eat marigolds

xxxp

xp
ahem JELLO MOLDS

with marshmallows in case you're feeling especially gelatin-deficient

next dinner party:

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is there an opportunity to revitalize cream-of-whatsit soup & frankfurt casseroles for cosmopolitan yelpers? maybe a charmingly kitschy bistro called "haute dish" or something?

p sure they're balloon sculptures scott

btw i know tater tots have been reclaimed already, there is a place here that does tater tot poutine

there are those kinda faux diner places that have apple brown betty and tuna casserole "with a modern twist". but nothing as extreme as frankfurter spectacular.

maybe a charmingly kitschy bistro called "haute dish" or something?

there is a restaurant here with that actual name

think of how long people were torturing the humble mashed potato. those potatoes didn't know what hit them.

all the new american places have those kinda throwback/futuristic dishes. i love a fancy mac & cheese. there is some great cheese out there!

there's also a place called "cafeteria" that i am fairly sure serves everything in plastic trays with the multiple compartments. never been there. it's always busy.

a table of itinerant foodies going crazy over a cilantro-infused pineapple jello mold, taking DSLR snaps of the house-made stovetop stuffing crust on their turkey casserole

fronting ground zero

http://www.haute-dish.com/

i would take a gift card; their beer list isn't bad.

haha wow, that actually exists.

would eat

inevitable last frontier will be the place called Le Dumpster. foodie diving behind supermarkets will be the ultimate in locavore sustainability. still think the new yorker article on the "fad" of "foraging" signals endtimes. you can get FOOD right out of the GROUND! who knew?

that belongs on the future foodie trends thread though.

Shit White People Eat

this dude's food is pretty good, even if the atmosphere is a bit much and the decor borders on/crosses the line to bad tase: http://newasiancuisine.com/5179-zak-pelaccio.html

maybe it's cause I grew up on ground beef casseroles bound w/cream of mushroom soup & mayonnaise, but beyond the LOLs those frankfurter dishes don't strike me as more outlandish and/or indigestible than some of the stuff I read about in high-end restaurant reviews

there is nothing left to do but invent entirely new foods, foods incomprehensible to human perception, foods whose very flavors come at the cost of sanity

At The Mushrooms of Madness

haha

even then some foodie would one-up you - "ah the manna from heaven I had in the middle east was better"

there is nothing left to do but invent entirely new foods, foods incomprehensible to human perception, foods whose very flavors come at the cost of sanity

ilx has done this before: dr. strongo's neuvo cuisine.

an appetizer that turns into a dessert as you eat

does the appropriation of eastern european foods work differently than that of Latin American or Asian foods?

besides generally being less yummy

maybe it's cause I grew up on ground beef casseroles bound w/cream of mushroom soup & mayonnaise

Had this at an elementary school potluck last night, it was amazing and I went back for seconds.

there were tater tots in it too, obviously.

hahaha my mom made that tater tots casserole 1000x

does the appropriation of eastern european foods work differently than that of Latin American or Asian foods?

Data point: the hipster Russian dumpling shop here went out of business. Pelmeni were the only menu item and the in-house music was provided by LPs played on a fetishistically displayed wood-cabinet record player. I miss it, actually.

hahaha my mom made that tater tots casserole 1000x

Just trying to say that this kind of food is not somehow far away in time or space; people around this great nation are eating tater tot casserole as we speak. They sell it in the grocery store prepared-food case here right next to the eel sushi and roasted beet salad.

I don't have a horse in the 'authenticity' race, but I do think pan-Asian places are frequently pretty bad. I think they cast too wide a net, as in "we're going to cook you region-specific food, from a region comprised of more than half of the earth's population and containing every conceivable biome and ingredient and also there will be probably be ginger"