GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

"Done."

Ok I was a bit harsh upthread. This show is significantly better than How To Make It In America. Basically because Adam and Jessa are engaging actors.

But Adam as a character is now like 90x too much. On the other hand, he's drawn probably as broadly as most female love interests on "guy" shows. Gawker's hated roundup nailed it describing him as a sort of manic pixie dream guy. Which is, I suppose, interesting and important in a sense, or at least new. But its certainly not honest, if that was ever posed.

or maybe it's not new, now that I think about it. it's like 2/3 of johnny depp's career, even.

y u still reading gawker's shit? also don't think he's manic pixie dream guy at all

i dunno, i think adam's quite honestly drawn. i've known people like him: proudly unsocialized, driven, idealistic, gifted, narcissistic, given to wild mood swings and whimsical decision-making. the difficulties of artistic collaboration with people of that sort struck home. anway, great episode overall:

"Come on! Charlie's in the bushes! Charlie's in the bushes, come on!"

Adam trying to put the ice cream cone on the kitchen shelf

"You've come this far, wash your forehead!"

"You really look really gorgeous."
"I've never been this miserable in my life."
"It's totally working."

"It doesn't make sense to get out of the shower now. There's pee on you."

mashups (shudder)

"All right, now let's go fuck."

I know Chris O'Dowd from

a) Bridesmaids
b) Friends with Kids

His accent in b) was similarly tortured.

‏@lenadunham
@BretEastonEllis Your work probably inspired like 1/2 my conceptions of sex and romance. It's DEFINITELY why I like Odeon #thankyou

He's been tweeting raves about Girls.

uh oh

pity about Twitter enabling public asskissing, they shd do this at parties.

dunno the internet has survived has survived endless snarky bullshit it can probably survive this

Your work probably inspired like 1/2 my conceptions of sex and romance. It's DEFINITELY why I like Odeon

I could care less how public the asskissing is but this reads exactly and terrifyingly like Hannah. I know I shouldn't be surprised but it's a bit dispiriting.

Er, 'couldn't'

Its a little horrifying really, unless there are a whole bunch of BEE novels that I have never heard of which are significantly different w/r/t sex and romance from the ones that I am familiar with. Alternately, she could just be talking about the Less Than Zero film? In which case, cool cool.

it could also be a joke

had a crush on Debra Lee Scott

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FGrxKMwdUu8/R554Viu_W4I/AAAAAAAACeU/NQOzBSJ2Alw/s320/scott+match.jpg

no her taste is definitely that awful (xpost)

haha wrong thread

We watched Tiny Furniture last night, and somehow I was sort of charmed by it in spite of my wife's OTM descrpition: "I had sex in a pipe. Then I went home and started writing this screenplay." I think she has an ear for dialogue and an ability to capture a certain subset of liberal arts college types very accurately that overcomes the myopically young, inexperienced and privileged story.

Like it's kind of thick to dramatically state that one-thing-I-know-is-I-don't-wanna-be-a-day-hostess when (1) you were a day hostess for about two weeks as far as I can tell, (2) you don't actually need a job and (3) no one actually wants to be a day hostess long term duh

But yeah I sort of liked it anyway.

So here's a theory about Adam. Back when "nerd" was a terrible thing, the subversive thing was to be the nerd. Now we're in the era of the "creep" (distinguished from the dot-com-millionaire nerd), and Adam is embracing his creep and is therefore the Fred Schneider of our age.

this world is made up / of creeps and assholes
and given the choice / i'd rather be with the assholes

i think this Adam guy could pull Fred Schneider's lungs out through his mouth

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-ZXX649139.jpg?size=67&uid=c70edc36-619a-4cc6-8fa3-536a50a1ea34

looks like my dad

Mayonnaise was the best part of this episode.

i liked the "waterbirth" line by that author.

Jessa's dismayed look as Kathryn points out she might not be happy

Marnie and Hannah's argument felt a lot like arguments I was having with a (former I guess) friend a couple months ago.

This show is doing so many things right.

about time that jessa girl got a stern talking to

also major lols at Christopher Moltisanti as a shaggy-haired Oberlin writing prof

ugh friend fights :( that was pretty dead on

I just watched it and was thinking that I'd never had a shouting fight with a friend like that! I've gotten into friend fights but more of the seethe for a while then talk it out kind.

I found the pacing of the fight weird and stilted? The constant one-shots didn't help, whole sequence felt needlessly choppy.

yes, the episodes lena directed herself flowed much better. i haven't loved a show this much for a long time but that was a poor episode imo.

Fight + mayo were too good to say "poor episode". Weaker than the most of the series.

what was mayo?

Adam getting the mayo from the fridge and saying not to disturbe him for ten minutes

haha. i think i missed that bit.

I had a shouting match like that with a friend who is like a sister but it was on the phone - she even called me a bitch and hung up on me! It was harsh times for both of us, and neither of us are actually birches. Everything was sorted out within a eek but whoa.

birches!

When I see bitches bend to left and right
Across the lines of straighter darker trees,
I like to think some boy's been swinging them.

This show is doing so many things right.

― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby)

i came to this cold and spent the first episode wondering where Dunham had found such an amazing, subtle and brave actress to play Hannah. I have to say i was slightly overwhelmed to find out who was playing Hannah. I'd be envious of her amazing multi-talent if i didn't love her so much already. by the time i got to episode two basically i could forgive her anything for that amazing interview scene with the rape joke which i was still laughing at in bed that night. her acting in that scene tips the whole thing off the scale. she's amazing.

ep 2 was the best of the season by a lot imo
these last 2 eps have been bad
i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

hahaaa iphone autocorrect birches!

ep 2 was the best of the season by a lot imo
these last 2 eps have been bad
i think id prefer if it cared less abt character arcs & had less thru-plotlines

― johnny crunch, Monday, June 11, 2012 9:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I usually don't do this but I'm gonna have to drop a "rong" on this

Didn't like the first 2 eps much tbh, and this last one was just OK. Rest has been good-to-great.

eh im willing to concede it's more on me y i didnt like them but..

the rich dude freak out was really cloying
adam's street art apology thing @ the end was so rank

adam's getting the mayo was maybe a high pt in the latest ep cuz they let it be a subtle thing!

something about the editing & pacing of the roommate argument scene reminded me of this

http://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/allen-skeleton.jpg