So what happened to Dawn? They just had that one episode with her and I don't think I have spotted her at her desk since?
― *tera, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago) link
ppl talked to her several times in this ep while she was off screen
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
I was wondering about the Lane thing. Surely they would just say he had a heart attack or died suddenly, right? Until Harry says something stupid.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
She was in the party in the conference room after the Jaguar announcement last week.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
They'll Weekend At Bernie's-him, because in the Mad Men universe Harry writes the movie based on this experience.
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 06:30 (twelve years ago) link
“But that moment where they break into the room, they deliberately did it so that they didn’t see me until they had that moment…they didn’t see me in makeup beforehand. And the hardest part about that was resisting the urge to fuck that moment up by breaking into a Monty Python skit and start dancing while hanging there.”— Jared Harris (“Lane Pryce”), on his scene in the Mad Men episode “Commissions and Fees.”
— Jared Harris (“Lane Pryce”), on his scene in the Mad Men episode “Commissions and Fees.”
I bet he did get to have a little fun while in makeup, though. lol
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
They have totally shown Don interacting with Dawn onscreen - they haven't given her much to do though.
I wonder if they'll get new offices. nobody likes to work where people have died.
also, while I don't think anyone here has voiced this particular criticism, I am perplexed by other comments floating about ye internet that this season has been "too predictable". What with the acid, the suicide, the whoring, Ginsburg, Peggy leaving - this seems like it's been one of the more unpredictable seasons imo.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
Ida Blankenship has already died in the office. Two deaths in three years is just careless though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
d'oh yr right how could I forget
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
this was pretty good
― goole, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
oh man, the scenes between Sally and Betty ;_; *picks up the phone, calls Mum*
I was surprised by Lane, but at the same time not really. The moment when Don says to Lane 'after this it gets easier' and Lane just looks at him with this 'orly fuck you' look on his face, I had a feeling it would go badly. Not THAT badly, but it becomes yet another one of those instances for Draper where he's being let down by the people around him. Or where his own view of himself and right vs wrong is just completely removed from the realities of other people's lives, or something.
And I really liked that last moment between Don & Glenn, letting him drive.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
feel like Don's genuinely done the right things re: Joan and Lane and yet both times it turned to crap - as Glenn would say
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
;_; at shots of Joan crying
― poxen, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah maybe that's it. his efforts to help people are thwarted by the people themselves not...well, not being him.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
shakey otm
― Sisig Steve (stevie), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
last shot/scene was truly great. one of my fav endings so far.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
fascinating
What did other cast members say to you once they found out about Lane? Do they try to console you? Keep things humorous?It comes out slowly. Jon Hamm knew about it from the very beginning. Before each season, apparently, Matt and Jon go out for a dinner and he discusses his ideas for the season with Jon and it was one of the stories that he wanted to build up to. But everyone else, no one knew.
http://www.vulture.com/2012/06/mad-mens-jared-harris-interview.html
― mizzell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
so much redemption for Glen with
"What do you want to do?""Are you kidding? The museum's right across the park!"
― I DIED, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
great interview w Harris - thx
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
The kid who plays Glen is a bit rubbish really, worst character in the series.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
What did he say?"I wanna talk to you in my office." And then he offered me some extremely expensive brandy, and that’s how you know you’re fucked. Yep. But there was talk around base camp from the pre-shoots that something was gonna happen to somebody. We kind of felt it in the air.
oh my god, Matthew Weiner telling Jared Harris his character was gone was just like Don firing Lane.
― I DIED, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
nah I think Glen is great. he nails the awkward stiffness of that age, particularly when it comes to relating to the opposite sex
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed. I don't get people saying Glen is creepy, a bad character or a bad actor. He perfectly portrays a kid of his age. I don't think I'd hang a whole series around him but he's a good character and has had alot of good moments for a minor player.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
shakey and sparkle otm re: glenn
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Was it just me or was the whole Glen subplot in this one a kind of ham-handed (but great) Holden Caulfield hommage? Boarding school, train stations, calling up girls he knew years ago out of the blue... "Everything you think's gonna make you happy just turns to crap..."
― brio, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
haha wow that didn't occur to me but makes total sense
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
did he call anybody a phony
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
no but sally did!
― goole, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
but yes brio otm. down to the prep school getup.
Isn't there a Natural History Museum thing in Catcher in The Rye too, or am I imagining that? Been awhile.
― brio, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
the actor is Weiner's son, and his middle name is Holden. Someone on Reddit pointed out that one of the very first times we met the little guy he was wearing a red hunting cap:
http://tvrecappersanonymous.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/creepy-glen.png
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
also from Reddit: Holden wants to see Phoebe, and he goes to look for her in the park because he remembers that she often roller-skates there on Sundays. He meets a girl who knows Phoebe. At first, she tells him that his sister is on a school trip to the Museum of Natural History, but then she remembers that the trip was the previous day. Nevertheless, Holden walks to the museum, remembering his own class trips. He focuses on the way life is frozen in the museum’s exhibits: models of Eskimos and Indians stand as though petrified and birds hang from the ceiling, seemingly in mid-flight. He remarks that every time he went to the museum, he felt that he had changed, while the museum had stayed exactly the same.
I did notice the CITR themes on my own since that's one of my favourite books, but I am lazy about researching :)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent call on Catcher.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
omg I didn't catch that at all
now I want to go read the book again again again
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
when I went to NYC with ENBB I took a picture of the pond & the ducks :) It made me so happy. Ditto with the skating rink. One day I'd like to try and do the whole trip he takes - haven't read the book for a while so not sure how many locations are namechecked, but I want to go!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't read it for a while either but I remember loving the awkwardness of him hanging out with the 3 girls at the Edmont, when they go dancing (?)
also everything between him and Stradlater
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
the whole book just makes me want to quote and reminisce and draw hearts <3 <3 and of course erase the word Fuck from anyplace I might find it
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
pun intended?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
hahah if I say yes I will be crediting myself with far more cleverness than I have, lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Lane's greatest moment, RIP:
http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PETE-CAMPBELL-KTFO.gif
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
I could watch that all day.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
pete punch v. crotch steak
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
ppl like characters on this show? TV is weird.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01hfwQL1QUg
"It shall be too late to run!"
― Stravinsky joins the Zulu nation (zero of the signified), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
and the way he puts up his fists, Marquis of Queensberry style is AWESOME
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
More Lane awesomeness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31cCUWDyyrQ
― Stravinsky joins the Zulu nation (zero of the signified), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
I just remembered that Don's brother also hanged himself after Don tried to wash his hands of him. Has he killed anyone else?
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
good christ, i'd completely forgotten about that
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
a friend of mine speculates that the series is driven by an Ayn Randian ethos, and Don is a Randian hero.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Burt Cooper is a Randian hero
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link