THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

i didn't much like how the jon/halfhand thing happened either - also needlessly vague. i mean, it was clear enough what qhorin was trying to do, but there was no moment when the penny seemed to drop for jon, and in the end he killed him cos he said something mean about his unknown mam. at least they got where they needed to be, by a roundabout way.

I'd go so far as to say that they really messed up this stuff. Not only did the writers/Kit Harrington turn Jon into an ineffectual, drooling idiot, like, someone whom the Night's Watch would actually kick out, he dragged down Qhorin's BAMFness too.

They also changed Ramsay/Reek into Dagmar Cleftjaw.

I do not look forward to Ian's return, I'll have to make sure my eyes are ready to roll.

However, any new scenes with Varys are so much A++++.

yeah but needs less Ros. When they introduced Dontos in the first episode of s2 and then cut out that whole storyline including finding out Littlefinger was behind it all, it makes Sansa seem stupid for not going with the Hound, when in the book it's cos she has this other escape plan in the works.

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today is really having a strong finish

Bf asked me the same while viewing "What's milk of the puppy?" Some people just have not read enough poison & dagger-laden fantasy novels, jeez.

I've never thought I was partic good at following intrigue, based on my inability to get more than like 5 sentences into denser political articles without my eyes blurring, and me figuring that politics was basically the same thing, but non-fantasy people watching this show make me feel like a fucking genius.

finally watched this last night. was the crazy white walker monster at the end supposed to be coldhands??

no

the white dudes on the horses are Others. it's implied that coldhands is reanimated dead. he also wears nights watch duds.

and he rides a stag

or an elk

yeah i was a bit confused since he didn't immediately kill samwell

If you were a scary supernatural being, would you feel threatened enough by Sam to kill him?

But yeah, Coldhands crossed my mind too.

it's never mentioned who coldhands is in the books right? are we supposed to believe that he's benjo or whatver the stark's ranger uncle's name is?

benjy is the prime suspect

this season was so much better than the corresponding book. arya's story was WAY improved in pretty much every way.

agreed.

so they're gonna start off season 3 with the red wedding? that should get everyone all riled up!

They're STARTING with that? Holy shit.

no way that's true

source?

just pure conjecture, but we've got the background all set up, and it would be a hell of a kickoff. get em yammering at the watercoolers and whatnot.

nah they'll stretch it out, red wedding will be episode 8 or 9 of season 3. They're introducing all the tullys from the casting stuff upthread so that'll all have to go down for a few episodes. They'll give us more of the Boltons, etc.

yeah we haven't even met the tullys yet so there's that whole bit at riverrun to get through first

they also have to set up Beric Dondarrion's death defying abilities

And the Martells, maybe?

Martells don't figure much into RW, though?

Riiight. So, if they split Book 3 into two seasons, it stands to reason that Red Wedding happens at the end of Season 3, and "RIP Lysa, Tywin, Shae" happens at the end of Season 4

If that's the case, I wonder what else would happen in Season 4, seeing as Theon, Hound, Cat and Robb would be gone/out of the picture. They'd surely have to introduce some of the new characters? I guess we'll be seeing a lot of the Boltons...

presumably a lot of the earlier stuff in AFFC would be happening in season 4. A lot of the iron islands stuff happens chronologically not long after Balon kicks it, which is around the same time as the RW.

Joffrey's wedding happens after the RW, as would Tyrion's trial, which will mean Oberyn (at least).

they'll also need to do the whole storyline with the Eyrie.

yeah I'm guessing joffreys wedding/death spectacular around midway season 4 with the aftermath (particularly tyrion's trial lasting longer/being a bigger deal in the show) taking up the rest of that season.

god i can't wait to see that little fuck choke to death. the hbo nation will cheer!

I don't think I've ever looked forward to a scene in anything so much.

What if they change it so he doesn't die and he stays around forever it's possible

eternal sadface

that would be amazing

And what if the show gradually comes around to his POV

what if they kill Tommen instead

Ser Pounce's head on a pike ;_;

definitely give Cersei more to do in Season 5 besides sit around getting wasted

Tommen should instead waste away of ennui

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Mark my prediction:

First scene of season 3, Jon Snow administering 'the Lord's Kiss'

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WE CAN HAZ BLACKFISH.

Oo, nice.

Flawless, better than your faves, etc.

Mackenzie Crook has been seen round Belfast with the cast. As has this guy: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1528121/ Nooooo idea who either of them might be.

perhaps edmure tully for the latter?

or either of them i guess

mackenzie crook is creepy enough to be a ramsay, if he can also be sinister