They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

not making any moves till I hear from armond

he hates ridley scott, so i can't imagine he'll pick this one to fall in love with

That's So Armond!

This was... OK. Worse than cubed. Better than Resurrection. Much stupidity, which I can't really go into without spoilers. For all that Ridley Scott has been playing down the idea that this is a prequel to Alien, the film goes out of its way to set up that movie - some of which I found satisfying. But it also raises lots of questions (so I'll come back and ask them when a few more people have seen). Main gripe though is that there is too much plot; a vaguely interesting premise meets blockbuster movie requirements = aagggh no one would really do that IRL.

Fassbender is great until he too is undone by the script's stupidity. Rapace is bearable. Most everyone else is wasted. The 3D is mostly unflashy but I suspect you lose nothing by seeing it in 2D.

Plot

In the distant past, the spacecraft of an advanced humanoid alien race arrives on Earth. One of the aliens consumes a dark liquid, causing its body to disintegrate and fall into a nearby waterfall—seeding Earth with the building blocks of life.

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all fair, jeff, tho without going into the details it's hard to see where you'd bump it up as high as 'ok'

The first maybe 40 mins are good tension/premise building, imo everything after the first expedition was incoherent hackneyed cliche- and the incoherence is by far the greater problem than the cliche.

just heard the end of a polite panning on radio 4

this film is beginning to sound so awful i think i'll have to see it

i think you may be onto something there

i have spent most of the last 24 hours talking about this movie and how dreadful it was- in a way that makes it better value than a movie i saw, liked and forgot.

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I love that!

having just watched alien i'm looking forward to seeing these space jockey guys running around, esp. as they quite clearly have no legs and are glued to the chair

Y'all are bringing me down.

Worse than cubed. Better than Resurrection.

this is impossible?

But... the trailers...

http://i.imgur.com/9k3fE.jpg

*hangs head*

Having watched Alien last night I'm not sure I want to see this any more.

imo watch the trailers slowed down to 160 mins, imagine the rest. You'll remember it more fondly

Alien: it busts at your chest!

I thought this was terrific. I'm no fanboy and went in with lower expectations after reading some of the comments and was pleasantly surprised. There's some parts of the plot which frankly need explanation or at least a re watching, which I'll pass on to avoid spoilers, but the second act on is such a blast I was happy to leave that aside.

And Kate Dickie of 'Red Road as a doctor made me smile.

SyFy is running Aliens on the pub flatscreen here. I had forgotten that the entire Rescue Newt sequence is all orange-and-teal.com

Also, that there is _no_ music during the search part. This is back when James Cameron knew what he was doing.

fwiw my sister texted me this evening, said she and her husband loved it.

this film is getting the most divided reviews i've seen for a very long time.

I wish filmmakers would start releasing different versions of their films, like, versions that are different by 20% or so, and not tell anyone. Them someone would see this and tell their friend, hey, I loved the part when such and such happened, and their friend would be all, huh? And then they would say they didn't like the such and such, and the first friend would be all, what? And then they'd each have to see it again to figure out what's going on. And then they'd compare notes and be all, oohhhhh, now I get it!!!

Pulling that on a mass-scale release would be fantastic.

that would've been cool a couple decades or more ago, but you know the internet would suck all the fun and excitement out of that in about a day now (xpost)

wld rate this abt as highly as The Thing prequel

Would it still be bad if it were not a sequel to alien, if there was no first alien movie to compare it to?

yes

So, is it:

Alien > Aliens > Prometheus > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection?

or

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Prometheus > Alien Resurrection?

or *gasp*

Alien > Aliens > Alien 3 > Alien Resurrection > Prometheus?

everything i have seen indicates it will be ridiculous

i sort of started tuning out when i saw the doughnut-shaped alien ship bearing down on noomi like a wagon wheel

i am gonna set an arbitrary deadline at 50 ballots

"50 ballotz stands for 1 ballot from every state of the USA, all them ballotz would be stronger than every weapon, if they would be united - THUG LIFE"

oops

it works here, too

I thought for sure this had opened in the US already. Hype Machine must be blown up.

Alien Resurrection is great, fuiud

ok, switch Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection around if you're that way inclined, I don't mind. :-)

Now I'm curious how this movie can be so terrible. Is it Transformers terrible, or just terrible because of missed potential? Like, is it inept or just too ambitious?

What was the deal w guy pearce's makeup in this movie

He was cheaper than an actual old guy I suppose.

resurrection was better than this, because it was just dumb and played dumb. might help answer your question too josh.

agree with number none on this- this movie doesn't work at all independently of hype or relation to any other movies, it just doesn't make any sense in and of itself

Again, I'm finding myself in the same boat as I was with Dark Shadows. This isn't bad enough to earn the glory of being a great bad movie.

I really liked this, although I've only seen Aliens (years ago and wasn't moved). There are some majorly daft rmde moments but by the end it's just rollicking great fun.

this was ok i guess. my first 3D film!

+ one particular scene is can't-turn-away-even-though-every-instinct-is-recoiling gripping, and if i was a female it might have actually traumatised me
+ one line from the captain is v amusing
+ michael fassbender is amazing
+ the charlize theron character is interesting
+ blah blah blah impressive cgi stops you falling asleep at least though i think i don't really "get" special effects as a replacement for plot and dialogue and characterisation

- almost nothing of consequence actually happens. there are setpieces but even i, who am not that familiar w/the alien series and have not been following the prometheus hype much, was not actually surprised by a single thing about it
- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep
- noomi rapace character way less interesting than charlize theron
- as per every blockbuster it misses a ton of tricks that could've made it more interesting or tense in more then a basic way. the two final survivors having to talk to each other and work together, for instance
- characterisation didn't go anywhere deep enough - the android is the most complex character ffs, for all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random

just a really average film basically

you should see alien, the first one, it is lean and wicked

^ speaketh the gospel.

- it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep
- or all that it purported to ask "why?" about everything nothing is ACTUALLY EXPLAINED EVER, half the characters' motivation may as well be completely random

LINDELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!

I don't regret my time watching it, but it is mostly bobbins. A friend made the interesting point that a lot of the set up is very similar to Aliens vs Predators, which is odd not least because this was put on hold (while still a twinkle in HR Giger's eye) so AvP could be made.

Lex hugely OTM about nothing consequential or surprising happening. Also the dialogue went out of its way to ensure this (drinking at the space-billiard table probably the worst of this), and the last scene (might be after the credits, I don't remember) seems to have been hammered in to underline certain connections for the really dim.

But yeah - I would recommend people to go see it EG cheap at the Prince Charles in 2D.

it doesn't engage with big or deep questions lol. i mean you can say the actual words "who are we and where do we come from" but that doesn't make it deep

tempted to put this post above my writing/drawing desk in perpetuo