big hoos & owenf watch 'battlestar galactica' and no one talks abt eps they haven't seen yet

I dug Caprica but this thread is mostly me saying over and over that I'm a big dumb stan about pretty much everything so hmph :D

The BSG things that betray Ron Moore's aesthetics rather than his scriptwriting are the.... more questionable

I couldn't get with Caprica, Stoltz and all. the DO YOU SEE? ethnic parallels were like some sub-Negron Complex shit

eric stults pitching today for the padres. could this be important??

only if alfonso soriano is a cylon

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and no way would a cylon have as little plate discipline as soriano does.

that's what they want you to think

ha ha!

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1016271/jeff-samardzija.jpg

and they have a plan

lmao

four or five eps into caprica, BORING

i kind of feel bad for owenf for like steam-train-carrying-on, sorry bro

just reached the break in season 4. had forgotten the planet of the apes ending.

hey don't work hoos, I'm going to have a mammoth catch up soon. Work based stuff has totally taken over and I couldn't devote anywhere near enough time or attention without feeling guilty.

oh, i finished this last night. also watched the 8 minute overview, which shed some light on things.

gave up on caprica btw, so boring

can't believe people saying mean stuff about Scar on here. best episode! made me cry a little :(

WORST

no way it ruled how can you not be moved by starbuck's toast to the fallen OH YES SHE REMEMBERED THEIR NAMES THEY ARE TATTOOED ON HER HEART!!!!

I thought scar was super fun

not as bad as the black market one, but . . .

i'm making a list now...

it was so scary!

I really just disliked Kat.

But that ended well for me.

so uh is it generally considered that this show has the worst finale of any "respected" TV drama from the last decade? marathonned this over the past week and a half and enjoyed much of it, but holy shit that was bad

So you've never heard of Lost?

I still like the ending.

mh--very good point. (I've only watched the first season of Lost to be honest)

Lost and Sopranos ending far more controversial/hated. This one was just disappointing, but at least there were two weaker theologically-fixated seasons setting you up for disappointment.

end of BSG was realizing that Ron Moore & co were only incrementally better than his ex-coworker Brannon Braga & co and they're all nerds

end of LOST was like someone shitting in your mouth

I apologize for this vivid image but I felt that it was really bad.

Lost and Sopranos ending far more controversial/hated

Sopranos ending is perhaps the best ending of any show in TV history

tbf he said controversial

I know I just get kind of AlexinNYC "honor the fire" about the Sopranos

surely most people have come around on the Sopranos ending anyway

at least The Sopranos were anticlimatic in its very nature

yeah wtf the Sopranos ending is the best, only one that comes close is The Shield

we should poll best tv endings ever (Newhart, Sopranos, Seinfeld, M*A*S*H* etc)

but as to the two preceding seasons, yeah they were weaker but there was still the occasional worthwhile episode there--the New Caprica stuff was great and perhaps from a better series, season 3 finale was pretty good. tbh the only part of 4.5 I thought was any good was the brief mutiny arc

also i know it's a dead horse but the use of "all along the watchtower" is the corniest shit ever, and that's even before ron moore's fear of what his roomba might do

(xp, although yes there should really be a poll)

tbh the only part of 4.5 I thought was any good was the brief mutiny arc

I agree - but even this was diminishing returns/rehash of previous storyline

My feeling is BSG started as a really good sci-fi show (with sometimes clumsy/sometimes effective overlays of Bush-era topicality) and got mired in increasingly nutty Mormon mysticism. (I know Mormon allegory was the starting point for the series, but the more that became the storyline, the lamer the whole thing got.)

Ron Moore is mormon? OG series had way more mormon shit in it, everything in the new one just seemed to be allusions to that afaict

Glen Larson, creator and producer of the first show, is a member of the Church of Latter-day Saints. He based much of the first series on Mormon cosmology. Was there a concerted effort to move away from that in this version?

Moore: Not specifically, no. I looked at the original series as mythos and the way it dealt with religion as sort of a global sense. I was aware that Glen had used Mormon influences and how he had created the cosmology, but I'm not that familiar with Mormon belief or practice.

The BSG finale was better than I expected, given how bad season 3 and 4 were. The action-y moments were good, pretty tense. The very end was incredibly stupid, no two ways about that.

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Yeah, but like he says there, it's pretty much in the DNA for it to have this mystical side(however Mormon it may be). Which was my least-favorite thing about it from the start, and it ended up sort of swallowing the series whole.

the half-assed mysticism definitely destroyed the show. I think the problem was that a bunch of good ideas were introduced at the outset without any real understanding of their implications, and then as the show went on and they realized they weren't going to get cancelled, they got buried under the weight of trying to make up explanations for things that had originally just been tossed off.

cylons being monotheistic, for example.