Just got to this line in Marabou Stork Nightmares on the way home:
"In Muirhoose nae cunt can hear ye scream...well, they can hear ye, they just dinnae gie a fuck."
― oh jeez. I can feel myself quicken. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
Aw, shoot, I took too long writing about my "The Shining and it's unintentional feminist subtext theory" and now we're into stats.
By all means, post away. I'm working my way up to the most interesting stats (i.e. what just missed).
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks to Eric and Pillbox, and thanks to all the people who took time out to write lengthy posts explaining/defending their choices. I was mostly at work during this, so was often posting hurriedly during the day--appreciated all the thoughtful commentary. I had 24/35 place, which I expected; I always knew my taste in this genre was on the conservative/consensus side of the spectrum.
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
MOST POPULAR YEARS1968 -- Rosemary's Baby; Night of the Living Dead; Hour of the Wolf; Witchfinder General1979 -- Alien; The Brood; Nosferatu: Phandom der Nacht; Phantasm1982 -- The Thing; Videodrome; Poltergeist; Creepshow2008 -- Let the Right One In; Martyrs; Paranormal Activity; Pontypool(1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 1987, 1992 and 2001 all had 3 films place.)
Brilliant rundown, I even rinsed the 3G on my non-smartphone to keep up. Awesome work all round!
― Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
38/100, p high i'd imagine so i shouldn't gripe. there was something about 2008 i think, i also had a couple on my ballot from that year that didn't plsce.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
That MAD Shining parody!!! I read that as a kid long before I ever saw the film & even MAD's version freaked me out!!
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
The 1982 entries seem like a perfect encapsulation of what I imagine 1982 to have been like.
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
Supposedly horror films get better during anxiety-ridden times: '68, '79, '82 (major recessions) all qualify. Will leave 2008 jokes for Morbius.
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
I think 19 of mine placed.
It has been great fun. Thanks to all involved.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
the list of films I saw in the theaters when I was 11/12 is mindboggling. saw the thing, poltergeist, and creepshow from this list alone. had to settle for reading the novelization of videodrome.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
1968 -- Rosemary's Baby; Night of the Living Dead; Hour of the Wolf; Witchfinder General
kind of mind blowing to me that these 4 came out in the same year.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
THE SHINING: http://maxgif.com/3pO
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
would love just a link to a flickr gallery where you could scroll through the images fullscreen
Not 100 percent sure these are all in the right order, but they should be close:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leechlake/sets/72157629754853602/
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
ALIEN: http://maxgif.com/3pR
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
great work Eric.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
MOVIES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN IN WITH WEIGHTED VOTESThe Beyond (#88)Whatever Happened To Baby Jane? (#100)
MOVIES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN OUT WITH WEIGHTED VOTESThe Cabin in the Woods (#105)Curse of the Cat People (#107)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
25/100
Saddest omissions: Child's Play, From Beyond, and The Human Centipede.
― Jeff, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
"Weighted Votes" in this context would've taken away some of the power of rankings. Each vote would've counted for the number of points in the normal system + the average of all potential points put together (25.5). This would've theoretically given a little more favor to the movies that received more votes, even if they were toward the bottom of people's ballots.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and for the record, no movie came even close to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre for number of first-place votes. In fact, the next three down on the list -- The Shining, Alien and Jacob's Ladder -- only got half as many at 4 each.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
all hail pillbox and eric, most fun i've ever had with an ILX poll
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yaaaay. Now, who's starting the ballot thread?
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
On the train now but the executive summary is that The Shining is a metaphor for domestic violence and Wendy is the hero of the story.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
we pushed hard to get in as many votes as we could, but i wonder if the results would have been a little less predictably canonical if the poll had closed as originally scheduled, with fewer ballots in
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
why not just do it here?
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Not really. The last-minute people were pretty evenly split between the canon devotees, the lunatic fringe and the general non-fan.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
THE BEYOND!!!! ;_;
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
the executive summary is that The Shining is a metaphor for domestic violence and Wendy is the hero of the story.
otm, but it's as much a depiction of domestic violence as a metaphor
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
TOP 10 PASSIONDEX IN TOP 10001. Threads -- 41.8302. Curse of the Cat People -- 4003. Vampyr -- 39.2504. The Shining -- 38.605. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre -- 38.1906. Psycho -- 37.4607. Kwaidan -- 37.3308. Alien -- 36.6309. Rosemary's Baby -- 36.3710. Carrie -- 36.35
BOTTOM 10 PASSIONDEX IN TOP 10001. Seven -- 18.902. Witchfinder General -- 20.903. Phantasm -- 21.87504. Let the Right One In -- 21.8805. Near Dark -- 21.906. Blood on Satan's Claw -- 22.12507. Frankenstein -- 23.1508. Eyes Without A Face -- 23.187509. Hellraiser -- 23.210. May -- 23.25
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
(I'm as surprised as any that there are so many of the overall top 10 finishers in the top of the Passiondex.)
Incredible work, Eric! Those stills are amazing!
― daavid, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
Horror Poll Ballots, post them.
― Jeff, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
OK, what you've been waiting for:
THE NEXT 50101. The Beyond [174/9]102. Haxan [173/7]103. Valerie and Her Week of Wonders [173/6]104. Tenebrae [171/5]105. The Dead Zone, The [170/7]106. Tetsuo: The Iron Man [164/7]107. Anguish [160/7]108. Blood and Black Lace [160/5]109. Basket Case [156/5]110. Messiah of Evil [152/7]111. Cabin Fever [152/5]112. The Omen [151/7]113. Inside [151/5]114. Whatever Happened To Baby Jane? [150/8]115. Scanners [150/6]116. The Masque of the Red Death [149/6]117. The Human Centipede: First Sequence [149/4]118. (tie) The Old Dark House [148/5]118. (tie) The Reflecting Skin [148/5]120. The Devils [146/6]121. God Told Me To [145/5]122. The Black Cat [143/5]123. Alucarda [140/4]124. The Return of the Living Dead [139/6]125. American Psycho [139/4]125. (tie) The Body Snatcher [139/4]127. (tie) The Others [138/5]128. A Tale of Two Sisters [137/5]129. Throne of Blood [136/4]130. (tie) Cube [131/5]130. (tie) The Mist [131/5]132. Black Sunday [131/4]133. Seconds [130/5]134. Eden Lake [129/5]135. The Changeling [128/3]136. Inferno [127/5]137. Aliens [126/6]138. The Unknown [126/4]139. Altered States [124/6]140. Ju-on: The Grudge [122/5]141. Cloverfield [121/5]142. The Golem [121/3]143. The Host [119/6]144. The Strangers [118/4]145. (tie) Scream [117/4]145. (tie) Shivers [117/4]147. Blue Velvet [115/4]148. Dracula (1931) [113/7]149. (tie) Dementia [113/4]149. (tie) Ginger Snaps [113/4]
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
And ...
FIRST-PLACE VOTES WEREN'T ENOUGH FOR121. God Told Me To [145/5]149. Dementia [113/4]198. Dead of Night [78/3]201. Wake in Fright [78/2]270. Marebito [50/1]
, but it's as much a depiction of domestic violence as a metaphor
In terms of isolation (figurative in most dv contexts, literal here), Wendy's attempts to appease Jack. Plus the movie more or less excuses Jack as an abusive alcoholic (it's more explicit in the book that he abuses Danny for sure and prob Wendy) by making it the hotel's evil influence. Although aside from the photograph in the last shot, the movie leaves it open to the possibility that Jack is just unhinged while the book is 100% evil hotel. (Given his penchant for autobiographical writers as main characters in his books, I wonder how much of that was King's attempts to forgive his own actions.)
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks, Eric - this has been a blast!
― Darin, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Also I think Jack N doesn't go totally ham from the start in the movie. I think viewers are picking up on him being a bad person who emotionally abuses his wife and broke his kid's arm. He's a villian without the evil hotel.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
103. Valerie and Her Week of Wonders [173/6]106. Tetsuo: The Iron Man [164/7]107. Anguish [160/7]108. Blood and Black Lace [160/5]
this stretch right here, this is killing me
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
I repeat ^^^
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
This is my iPhone background btw
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad184/sdolnack/7ed66078.jpg
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
I wanted so many of those movies that were just bubbling under to bubble over, and I felt like I opened Pandora's Box by nominating (somewhat tongue in cheek) The Cabin in the Woods in the nomination thread, never realizing that it would get enough points to actually land inside the top 100.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
You need to charge your phone. xp
wow, Eric, so Phase IV didn't even make it into the next #50? - early votes for that one made it seem likely to place..
― Carnage of PJ Soles (Pillbox), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
Usually just lurk here, but loved watching this poll unfold — a delightful distraction while finishing a long-overdue term paper, particularly with the Ghoulunatic-style intros. Thanks so much, Eric & Pillbox.
I was inspired to watch Threads from this poll, which I'm sure I would have voted for had I seen it — probably the most devastating film I've watched since Cronenberg's Spider several years ago. I was curious about the sources for a lot of its images: some of it seems to be obviously inspired by WWII bombings and death camp photographs, but there were quite a few shots that evoked the Middle Ages in some vague way I can't pinpoint. Also the image/text overlay, combined with the Sheffield setting probably, reminded me of postpunk sleeve artwork. Has anyone researched this somewhere?
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
thanx for all the work eric!
only real surprises: no friday the 13th (didn't even make it into the Top 150!) and no the omen in the Top 100.only real disappointment: whatever happened to baby jane? not in the Top 100.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
So, can anyone tell me about God Told Me To ?
― kraudive, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
When I was little, my mom, the furthest thing from an intellectual of the arts for lack of a better way to put it, said of The Shining, "You almost want Wendy to get it!" Unsettled me even then. Then last month read almost the exact same quote from Kubrick. Make of that what you will.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
Phase IV got 4 votes from the first 18 ballots. It got one more vote for the entirety of the polling period thereafter. It landed in slot #190, between Naked Lunch and Cannibal Holocaust.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
God Told Me To is the best Larry Cohen film (that I've seen anyway) that about midway through goes from being a weird scummy-70s murder mystery to totally batshit I-cannot-believe-this-is-happening pseudo-religious alien abduction gender studies 101 headfuckery. MUST SEE
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Argh, the top three of 'the next 50' were all ones I voted for.
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link