Most people in the world are uptight assholes, Shakey.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
Seeing La Lechera's love for TWM makes me want to like it so much more than I do. It's fine, it's eerie and weird and whatnot but it isn't better than Psycho or TCM.
Also TWM feels like a well-made version of The Butterfly Ball with added creepiness and less singing.
and xposts to Stevie: yes but imagine how boring it would be if all that was left out though, lol
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
how are these people scary at all? the only people they're a threat to are uptight assholes
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:11 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, then I know some people on this thread who should be *really* scared.
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
that may be so Eric, but not to many want to actively identify that way
xp
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
lol emil.y :D
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
lol emily
anyway
so Butterfly Effect at #1, right?
exactly! how are these people scary at all? the only people they're a threat to are uptight assholes
Well, they're scary cuz there's an undertone of darkness to their songs & their deeds & their swapping of corpses with rabbits & burning of humans, which you may not notice if you've lived there all of your life or if you're swept away the fun-time singing. Buuuuuut if it don't scare you, it don't scare you, obvs.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
touché
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
I guess what I'm saying is that TWM is only frightening if you identify with the puritan. I do not, never have and never will and am kind of suspicious of people that do.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
lol emil.y
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
All I'm saying is: I wouldn't have been able to have sex with Britt Eklund either.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
puritans who live in suburbs, eh
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
the thing well on its way to potentially becoming the most overrated ilx movie of all time. and i like the thing! but jesus it cant win all the polls
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
And I'm guessing they wouldn't have accepted Christopher Lee being her substitute.
Hey look, Rosemary's Baby!
I see Rosemary's Baby as an inadvertently feminist movie (lol Polanski amirite?), where a good portion of the horror of it isn't that Ro is having the devil's baby, but that something bad is happening and nobody will believe her. And not because she's not credible or there's anything wrong with her - just because a lot of the time, people just don't believe women.* That, more than any concept of evil or Satan or whatever, is what makes the movie so effectively frightening to me.
*It's such a common horror trope as to be almost invisible now, but in the vast majority of horror movies, the first person to notice that something is amiss is a woman, and her concerns are always initially dismissed. Moral to dudes: shut up and listen to women and you'll live longer.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
It's true, you have to be a pious virgin police offer to enjoy this film.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
TWM is also the fear of being the stranger in a group and everyone being in on it but you.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
I've only seen like 30 min of this film :(
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Anyway, obvious zingitude aside, the whole point to me is that there's a real tension about who to root for, and what that says about us and our impulses and our potential for cruelty. In a sense, the islanders are the good guys, but they have to sacrifice something for their bucolic world to continue. Is it worth that sacrifice? Well, maybe. But that loss of 'civilisation' for the greater good, it is still a scary thought.
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
way to not read
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
Watch Carrie first, then watch the rest of Rosemary's Baby. xp
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
ftr I enojoyed TWM. it's funny
yeah, how bad could the islanders have really been? they gave uptight Christian dude an awfully attractive escape clause ... pork Britt Eklund and you live!
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
ok so there are 4 spots left and i feel like rosemarys baby makes 5 expected films? also if the thing wins this poll too i swear to god
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:02 PM (13 minutes ago)
I've bit my tongue the entire time, but I fully expect the thing to be #1. it might be the shining, but there is a near religious love of the thing on this board.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
people just don't believe women.*
That and she's depicted as being perpetually at the mercy of men (and post-menopausal women).
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
another nice cryptkeeper line there folks
rosemarys baby doesnt do it for me at all but i can see why its here
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
basically at this point I assume that 80% of the board has masturbated while watching The Thing
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
I really like The Wicker Man. I also really like Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Didn't vote for either.
― oh jeez. I can feel myself quicken. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Why would you have to identify with the puritan or be an uptight asshole to find TWM frightening? I'm not saying it is or isn't but I don't understand this in theory.Just because you wouldn't be a target yourself does this make them unfrightening regardless of the principle involved?
― MrDasher, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, for sure. Her only act of autonomy is cutting her hair short. She doesn't even get to have agency in her own sex life. (insert terrible Polanski joke here)
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
Maypoles and morris men and animal costumes and fertility dances are real, and they tap into a sense of England that is both pastoral and primal, bucolic and highly dangerous... We're a strange people in an ancient land.
I had this reaction for a bit when watching TWM until I remembered that you could make any religious culture/ritual look creepy in this way
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
(actually don't insert Polanski's anything into anything)
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
(insert terrible Polanski joke here)
Mostly took care of that when posting quotes, ftr. (That thread still pisses me off.)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
my sense of what's scary has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not i rationally believe in the source of threat, and my ability to identify with characters isn't wholly determined by the extent to which i like and/or agree with them. i fault the anti-hero protagonist of the wicker man for his christian priggishness, but that doesn't make me any more happy to see him burned alive. he's not the greatest guy around, but i don't really hate him.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
Most religious culture/ritual is creepy. That's why it features so strongly in horror films. I just don't see why people are discounting paganism when they accept Catholicism.
xposts
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
still pissed about return of the living dead tbrr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozsIKQxEMPU
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
I don't accept Catholicism thank u very much
― da croupier, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
i think of Morris dancers as being more dorky than creepy (much less dangerous). obviously, Morris dancing and spinning round the maypole would be REALLY weird anywhere in the USA but it's not as organic over here as in the UK.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
Her only act of autonomy is cutting her hair short.
yeah but she def looks better with the bob tho.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
there's actually quite a bit of paganism in Catholic rituals, traditions, etc.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
Per my previous commentary, the scariest part of Rosemary's Baby is when she goes to see the regular OB/GYN and tells him her concerns, and you think that she's going to get some help... but nope. He calls the Demon Doctor and her dumb husband and it's back to Satan's High Rise with you. It's like the scene in TCM when the one woman almost gets away but gets pulled back into the house. Ugh.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
its late enough in the game now that even i think ive got this figured out but if i could design this ranking it would def be alien>the shining>the thing
im not forgetting anything right
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
It's like the scene in TCM when the one woman almost gets away but gets pulled back into the house.
Oh yeah, at the roadside gas station/sausage market! Totally.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
i remember never having heard of The Wicker Man before coming to ilx and seeing it just referenced constantly
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
by la lechera
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
by everyone!
― some dude, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
hate to break it to you but we're all la lechera socks
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
i never watched the OG wicker man until after the Nicolas Cage lol-fest had come out.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
when she goes to see the regular OB/GYN and tells him her concerns, and you think that she's going to get some help... but nope. He calls the Demon Doctor and her dumb husband
ugh i remember first seeing this scene and feeling absolutely sickened by the betrayal
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
maybe Nicolas Cage should be involved in a Rosemary's Baby/Night of the Hunter remake!
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)