what EVERRR
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)
what's wrong with 'so...'?!
Yeah I'm really astonished by some of the things deemed Americanisms here!
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)
If you have a British West Midlands accent you use Mom.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)
Why am I in trouble now? Oh dear.
― Trayce, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)
I remember about seven years ago myself and loads of people I hung out with started saying douchebag all the time, having just been introduced to it by one, or both, of Daphne & Celeste. Good times
― DJ Mencap, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)
yet/already with the simple past tense. "Did you do it yet?" Don't think that's really crossed over to the UK.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)
Birmingham is a very different part of the world from where Anna comes from. The West Midlands is the Balkans of British Regional Identities and accents.
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)
uh?
xpost
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)
The West Midlands is the Balkans of British Regional Identities and accents.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)
xpost to the "uh"
I would say "have you done it yet?" "Did you do it yet?" sounds American to me. Maybe I'm behind the times though.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)
Ah I see sorry, I used "brum" in a lazy sense. My ex was from Rugely. I didnt know the West was its own world!
― Trayce, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)
ok the explanation of how they say 'book' in northern england basically made me realize that everything i know of their accents i learned from paul's grandad in 'a hard day's night'
But Paul's grandad is Irish!
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)
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i might say either one of those. plenty of things, like saying 'today' for 'to-day' are really americanisms, or were considered so 80 years ago...
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)
It's definitely creeping in. I blame Friends. Also the 'have' v 'have got' thing. Both are acceptable, but in Britain it's more common to say "I've got a pen" / "Have you got a pen?" / "Yes, I have" than "I have a pen" / "Do you have a pen?" / "Yes, I do". But the other 'have' thing seems to be growing and leading to mangled hybrid exchanges like "Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do".
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)
But the other 'have' thing seems to be growing and leading to mangled hybrid exchanges like "Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do".
"Yes, I do got money" is the correct response
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)
word
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)
i'm not sure what y'all trying to protect.
I'm conflicted about how Americanisms have impacted on British speech but I don't obsess over it, especially not on weekends... well, not for the longest time, anyways... and I am usually the world's champion at that sort of thing... sir
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)
one americanism i've found myself using but not understanding is along the lines of "not that big of a deal". what is up with that?
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)
Well I was going to say no British person would ever say "y'all"...
Not trying to protect anything. But I think it's interesting what crosses the Atlantic, and what doesn't.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)
some Midlanders would say "mam" right?
― blueski, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)
Cotton candy.
― Matt DC, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)
Taffy
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)
How do Americans pronounce 'Mom' anyway(s)? Because the sound that most English people use in 'bomb' doesn't seem to exist in America.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)
Does anyone use commode?
― Ms Misery, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)
Aluminum
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)
If you have a British West Midlands accent you use Mom. I don't really have much of my regional accent remaining, but I still say Mom. People who are not from that area take the piss out of me constantly for "sounding like an American."
Really? My husband is from the West Midlands and neither he nor any of his friends or family say Mom. They definitely all say Mum.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)
Where in the West Midlands?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)
The tropical paradise known to most as Coventry. Heh.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)
"Have you got any money?" "Yes, I do"
What about the past tense of get i.e. gotten vs got?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)
Sadly, I've never been to Coventry. Sent people there, like.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)
See, this doesn't work in Scotland, 'cos the answers always "Naw"
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)
we have had the "gotten" discussion here before; i believe the brits think "gotten" is ugly and possibly dangerous
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
ill-gotten
― Ms Misery, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
Does 'Darn Tooting' get said in the US?
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)
Gotten is old school, like 17th century or sumthin'
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)
britishes need to chillax
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
If you ask "have you got", then grammatically the reply should be "yes I have", and if you ask "do you have", then the reply is "do you have". I think that's the point being made above.
As for got/gotten, I think there's an age cut-off. People (in the UK) over the age of 30 or so use "got" as past partciple, younger people use "gotten".
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
OK I just reread that post and I see that you meant the reply should be "Yes, I have" instead of "Yes, I do". I don't think that's an Americanism either though. Using "do" in place of other verbs surely is an integral part of the English language?
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)
xpost Aaargh, the reply to the second is "yes I do"
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)
x post to TomD. - Coventry is not a very exciting place but it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. It's kind of grim but so are a lot of other places! I was expecting much worse based on what I'd been told.
I've never heard it said other than in jest.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)
Is "pesky" still in common usage in the US?
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
also:
"you want that i" vs "do you want me to" FITE!
― CharlieNo4, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
ironic slang is the old/new ironic dancing
xxpost yes, why wouldn't it be?
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)
Charlie that's a whole 'nother topic
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, only who the fuck speaks grammatically?
― That one guy that quit, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0015/5755/brand.gif
― Ms Misery, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)
May we never start referring to our main courses as "entrees"... aargh.
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I have never ever heard that this is wrong
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)
It is becasue entree should actually be used to refer to an appetizer, right?
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)
The word entrée is French. It generally means "entry", and "a smaller, first course" when used in relation to food.
I think the US is the only place where entree means main course. Every else it means the starter course.
― ENBB, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)