I don't like Martin as much as I like Romero's zombie output. I like Martin fine, but I honestly didn't even think about it when compiling my ballot and I'm not sure I would have voted for it even if I did. But the rest of yous shouldn't take my word for it and should see it for yourself.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
i think Martin's tremendous but i have to admit tedious lol zombie bores have taken some of the shine of zombie flicks for me
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
not Zombie Flesh Eaters tho, that fucking rules
i voted pretty high for martin, probably higher than i should have
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Martin is such a smart film, really subtle and well done, especially given the budget. It's one of the few totally original takes on vampire lore (and I suppose sets the stage for Vampire's Kiss!).
My Romero zombie hierarchy, btw:
Night>Dawn>Land>Day>the other shitty ones, the last of which I skipped because I think it's about feuding Irish farmers or some shit. "Day" has the best FX by far, but man, the worse acting and script. There's a great commentary on this one, too, not the one from Romero but a second one from Roger Avary, who doesn't mince words when it comes to the film's pros and cons, and talks a lot about how he and Tarantino used to more or less play the film on a loop in their video store to gross out customers.
Any love for Fulci here? I don't like him, but I admire his gormless, gritty, grisly approach. Plus: shark vs. zombie!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
yeah Flesh Eaters is exploitation done just right, as seedy and random and porny in its lack of interest in anything but its set pieces as really effective cheapo horror shd be
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:40 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, wait, is Zombie Flesh Eaters Zombi, aka Zombie 2?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
I like Fulci. I find his movies largely incomprehensible, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying them.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ppIWBqPYjg&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dzombie%2Bflesh%2Beaters%26page%3D%26utm_source%3Dopensearch
not suitable for work or college obv but this is just all time
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
yah Zombi 2 was the original italian title iirc? passing it off as a sequel to Day of the Dead
We talked about the puzzling nature (and awesome voice dubs) of House by the Cemetery on the nominations thread.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:43 (fourteen years ago)
"City of the Living Dead" has a really spooky mood, spread out between the gross-outs.
Had I taken part in nominations I might have considered the "Blind Dead" series. They're not really scary, but the zombie Knights of the Templar are pretty iconic.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
Actually, I believe the mythology is that Romero gave Fulci his half-blessing to present "Zombi 2" as an unofficial sequel to "Dawn of the Dead," since Fulci worked on "Dawn," to some degree.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
Zombi 2 I did not like at all and The Beyond and City of the Living Dead I didn't like much either. His whole shtick is p much "GUYS GUYS GUYS OMG LOOK AT THIS CHICK VOMITING HER INTENSTINES WHOA LOLOLOL I don't have to bother w the rest of the film, do I?"
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
Dawn i meant, yeah. didn't know that tho.
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
I'm amused that I was accused of taking the comedy poll too seriously -- as if it was to be "engraved on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier," I think it was -- while some of you are preparing to dice these "fun on the internet" results in more ways than a sabermetrician would.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
Stevie that's the exact same reason i said he was awesome :D
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
I'm displeased that Return of the Living Dead prob isn't going to make it on this list btw
― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
By the way, Sam Neil from the AVClub Random Roles interview:
Possession (1981)—“Mark” SN: Oh, my God. You’re really finding the obscure ones now. [Laughs.] Yeah, that was probably the most crazed thing I’ve ever done. It’s by a fabulously crazed Polish director called Andrzej Żuławski, with Isabelle Adjani playing my wife, who was pretty out there at the time as well. [Laughs.] We were shooting in Cold War Berlin, and… It’s sort of a monster movie, but it’s more about the terrible destruction of a marriage than anything, and if you have the courage to sit through the whole thing, it has its rewards.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
Romero's Diary of the Dead and Survival of the Dead get a bad rap. Both are good and, while minor when compared to the original trilogy, filled with smart ideas. Survival, especially, feels like a return to form. Plus at the very end it adds something to the Romero zombie rules: Did you know there is another food source that zombies will accept? True! What is it? Watch the movie!
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
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Haha, yeah, I think this is spot on.
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
Is there an estimate of when #1 will be posted? I'm like refreshing this page every hour
― calstars, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
Not much Fulci or Argento on this poll, correct? Both are filmmakers I love, but whose nonsensical scenes of giddy ultraviolence bleed into one another so I can never keep their movies straight. I don't mind that personally, but for a poll it's obviously problematic.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
It's horses. Zombies eat horses. There, now you don't have to watch the crappy movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
Argento I love. At the least, he's a great technician, and his scores are awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)
Is there an estimate of when #1 will be posted?
Likely about 5 or 6 hours from now, given the pace I'm anticipating.
(Am I stalling right now? Yes, a little.)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
no Michele Soavi i think either, really am kicking myself for not getting my shit together for this but i get the feeling half my picks wdn't have scored anyway
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
Isn't Cemetery Man here? That's Michele Soavi, rght?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:03 (fourteen years ago)
I think the stat I'm most interested in is films that didn't make the cut. Like, what were films 101-150? Could be a goldmine of weirdness.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:04 (fourteen years ago)
ah i didn't realise Cemetery Man had made it and i couldn't be bothered to go back and check. Stagefright: Aquarius is an excellent Argento tribute too
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
no Frank Henenlotter just ain't right tho
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:07 (fourteen years ago)
"a goldmine of weirdness" = posts that effortlessnessly summarize ILX
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
spending the morning psyching myself up for a dark horse appearance of hostel 2, but mainly so i can work myself up for a frenzy of derision when it doesnt place
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
that's the spirit
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
I rather like jjj's passion for Hostel 2. I can imagine an alternate world in which there was no Saw, Captivity, et al, and if Hostel 2 had plunked down out of nowhere, how my jaw would have pretty much dropped. I can see that.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
I like Hostel 2 just fine.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
i am pretty sure fulci found his films incomprehensible
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
I wonder if they'd be better in Italian?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
And if I didn't know Italian and just watched them in some other language?
as i said, it's like porno, he's not really in it for the plot
― Cyders from Mars (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
i dont actually mind the first saw so much (captivity tho yikes super fucking awful) but yeah some of this ire is because of imagined torture porn culture dragging down some pretty amazing films (inside, the hostels, feed, deadgirl)
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
Isn't the thing with a bunch of these Italian films that some of the actors spoke Italian, some spoke English, and some just spoke gibberish as they were all gonna be overdubbed anyway?
― emil.y, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah. it's like Sergio Leone, guys cast in another country based on how well or how close they can come to English, with a couple of American ringers. Except Fulci has no ringers!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
even tho i am not a big ol fulci stan, i would have liked to see city of the living dead/whatever the title is where you live make the poll as well
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
I hate all the Saw movies. I think they're pieces of shit. Just terribly made/acted.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Hostel 2 is slick and sort of funny.
i think that when we see the 101-150 range there are going to be some pretty big headslapping moments in there that we havent even thought of yet, tbh
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
Like The Sentinel, my fave forgotten wtf movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
c/o The Sentinel:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7JADKNyC5Qw/TkNzfUYgjJI/AAAAAAAAAvg/0wfyikSGCmc/s1600/-1.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
My #50 was Wolfen, from the director of Woodstock, starring Albert Finney and Gregory Hines.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:23 (fourteen years ago)