Community, the tv show

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The thing that strikes me most about Community is that not only will it indulge in nerd shit and genre pastiches/exercises(they've never actually parodied a genre yet), but it will actually do this stuff in service to the characters. The Claymation ep was borne out of Abed's manifestation of not being able to connect with his mom that year via stop-motion Christmas specials. The AD&D ep was about the gang trying to prevent a supporting character from offing himself, but also showing vividly painting the gap one group member had with the rest.

My fear with the next year is that you'll get guys who don't get that crucial point; guys who think like several FB friends of mine who like fucking Big Bang Theory b/c it namechecks nerd shit despite being a sitcom from and having a view of geeks/nerds/weirdos torn from the 80s. The most tangible details, to borrow a phrase from Film Crit Hulk, will be the only thing noticed and the actual point to the scene will be lost.

Plus, I'm afraid that weird jokes like the stoned pizza dude perking up at the concept of other timelines will never, _ever_ happen with folks in control who ain't so obsessive.

And we won't get as much deliberate onscreen hate for Glee.

So much great shit came from the obsessions and pop neuroses of the folks writing the show. And who the hell else gunna let Jim Rash run wild like that?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:23 (fourteen years ago)

Great news! The guys who didn't bother to call me when they did the US IT Crowd are taking over Community!

Oh, shit. And that's the (apparently godawful) show Joel McHale did a pilot for before getting his Community gig. Wow, if I didn't really love the cast and want the show to still be good at least for their sake, this could be a great 13-episode slice of schadenfreude coming our way.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

Re: Linehan. Holy shit, it is a small-ass world, innit?

Linehan kills the IT Crowd last year letting Chris ODowd and Richard Ayoade come to Hollywood, Jessica St Clair(who played Jen in the American pilot) gets her NBC show canceled, and Joel Mchale(who was to play Odowd's role) hangs in there on the show Linehan watches, which Ayoade has directed at least one ep of.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:29 (fourteen years ago)

Xp, naturally. Like I said, small world.

Anybody know if Moffat's ever commented on this show?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:30 (fourteen years ago)

so was i the only one who thought the finale was not that funny and easily the weakest of those last 3? i was never that big on the timeline thing, though, 'evil version of me has goatee!' is almost as oppressively corny as 'beverly hills cop theme on keytar guys!'

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:32 (fourteen years ago)

I think you're hitting the keytar thing a little too hard, sd. What would you have preferred Chang to play (especially since the presence of "Axel F" was, like, the fifth furthest thing from the point of that sequence)?

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

Wasn't as funny, true, but it had more heavy lifting to do, and wasn't a paintball ep.

Also, 'beverly hills cop theme on keytar guys!' isn't really that funny, but 'beverly hills cop theme on keytar guys!' played by a short Asian-American in full Napoleon costume is much funnier.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, i was ranting about how keytar is a played out comedy device five years ago so i'm appalled to a see a show i like resort to that (xpost)

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

And that's the (apparently godawful) show Joel McHale did a pilot for before getting his Community gig.

I saw about five minutes of it online...it was painful. It mangled one of the original IT Crowd jokes and just had this stilted BBT comedic timing. And I really like Jessica St. Clair and McHale, but they both came off as corny and awful because of the way it was written and directed.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:38 (fourteen years ago)

And who the hell else gunna let Jim Rash run wild like that?

kingfish otm. And are the new guys gonna allow for improvisation? "I have the weirdest boner" was an ad-lib.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 21 May 2012 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i want to believe that the chemistry and sensibility of the cast will carry the show, but considering that the highlights of McHale's film career are What's Your Number? and a Spy Kids sequel i have some concerns that dude's taste is not as great as i assume it to be

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, i was ranting about how keytar is a played out comedy device five years ago so i'm appalled to a see a show i like resort to that (xpost)

Yeah, but I mean...that keytar is an established Chang-fectation (so, so sorry) from, what, season 1? It's just about maintaining continuity, man?

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't remember that, sorry i didn't realize Community had already sunk to keytar lols years ago

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

McHale's standup, The Soup bits, and Loveline appearances probably a far more accurate depiction of his sensibility than a movie script, I must say.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

Keytar was excusable for the scene where Chang wrecked Jeff's car with one, and the subsequent struggle/"We're just jammin'!"/tasing.

(also, "Did you say 'keytar,' or did you say 'guitar' like a hillbilly?")

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 21 May 2012 01:57 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, iirc, Chang wanted to re-enrol as a music theory student in order to improve his compositional chops on the keytar. I think I would have liked to see a Greendale music theory class.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:05 (fourteen years ago)

McHale's standup, The Soup bits, and Loveline appearances probably a far more accurate depiction of his sensibility than a movie script, I must say.

― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:55 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh i know, and he gets writing credits on The Soup etc. but when he picks shitty projects it makes me wonder how much he just kinda got lucky w/ Community.

judas, a scary ho (some dude), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:07 (fourteen years ago)

Anybody know if Moffat's ever commented on this show?

no but: last week Neil Gaiman, who is a fan, responded to the youtube of Karen Gillan wishing she could be be in Inspector Spacetime by wishing he could write any Inspector Spacetime scenes that Gillan might be in.

On Saturday he responded to Harmon's blog post with

You know that bit a few days ago where I volunteered to write an Inspector Spacetime bit for Community if they took Karen G up on her offer to guest-Amy-Pond it?

That statement is, I am afraid, no longer operative.

An hour or two later, he won a Nebula for the episode of Who he wrote with Amy Pond in it.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:08 (fourteen years ago)

Holy fuck, Britta in glasses.

(Watching "Introduction to Finality" now.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

i think they did that gag quickly in the law and order ep, too

Nhex, Monday, 21 May 2012 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

I just thought she was hot in glasses. I think you're right though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:28 (fourteen years ago)

Liked the finale. It had heart.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

massive xposts but if i ever find myself thinking this, that's when i smash my laptop to smithereens and go check in with the trappist monks

that was sarcasm

but i still didn't like seeing two theme eps one after another. wouldn't have cared if they were separated by weeks but seeing them back to back like that gave me a srs case of the come on guyses

otoh if next season was literally just 13 different gimmick/homage eps i'd be happy. i'd also be happy if next season was awkwardly terrible because sony is running the show and has no idea what to do with it. that'd be an entertaining switch. i'm excited!

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:03 (fourteen years ago)

i agree -- given what's gone down, i just want to see them go for broke one way or another.

s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I think has led to the uneven quality of the show is that so much of the time they really are swinging for the fences, as it were

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

While they weren't able to get Bill Murray on the show under Dan's tenure, I'm glad that they at least got Luis Guzman

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I think has led to the uneven quality of the show is that so much of the time they really are swinging for the fences, as it were

I'll take interesting potential failure over boring consistency any day of the week (and at least twice on Thursdays).

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I think has led to the uneven quality of the show is that so much of the time they really are swinging for the fences, as it were

OTM.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:51 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, seriously, they said "fuggit" and did an ep on MY DINNER WITH ANDRE. I was watching it at the gym while on a cardio machine and immediately got it that they were heading out a long way from shore, but the previous 2 years had given me enough faith in Dan & cadre to trust them that they'd make it work and make it make sense, and by gum, they did.

I'm still curious if Danny performed it as Andre or as Abed trying to be Andre, and if that makes a difference. Maybe I'll get a chance to ask him when they to a retrospective panel on the show in 10 years at the Bridgetown Comedy Fest or something.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 21 May 2012 03:58 (fourteen years ago)

I think one of the biggest crimes regarding this show's eventual end will be Danny Pudi's genius getting perpetually shortchanged because of (let's face it) his ethnicity (looking forward to his role as Weird Cab Driver #2 in the 2014 Ryan Reynolds romantic comedy, Love, I Suppose!). Although Community should provide a ton of fodder for his reel, so I'd be over the moon if the entertainment industry proved me wrong.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:33 (fourteen years ago)

Saw Yvette Nicole Brown in a coffeeshop today. We were both sweating our tails off in line and I talked to her briefly. I haven't kept up with the show so I didn't have any in-jokes or references to say, just told her I was a fan.

Cunga, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:33 (fourteen years ago)

xp sadly, i agree with you on this

Nhex, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:43 (fourteen years ago)

i suspect pudi may be stuck in "lead actor's best friend" roles for a while.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:44 (fourteen years ago)

where, you know, ryan reynolds will costar with kirsten dunst or whatever and pudi will get "the fat chick" i.e. the woman who is at normal body weight.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:44 (fourteen years ago)

b/c as signs of difference "ethnic" and "normal body weight" are about equivalent in rom-coms.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:45 (fourteen years ago)

i imagine he'll land a supporting role on a sitcom with a laugh track and basically just be the character from the cell phone commercial he was in. extremely bland.

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:50 (fourteen years ago)

as long as he doesn't end up on the big bang theory. i guess they've already got an "ethnic" type.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

donald glover the next drake

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

i admit that pudi's "coolcoolcool" has become standard lingo in my household.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)

alison brie's career ends, except in hentai

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)

i think she'll do fine.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

chevrolet chase becomes the guy "you love to hate" on the next celeb apprentice

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

alison brie's career ends, except in hentai

Isn't she still on Mad Men? (Haven't seen the current season yet.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:56 (fourteen years ago)

She is, and, if the previews are to be believed, shows up in the next episode.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 May 2012 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

gillian carves out a career playing the love interest in every boring indie romcom, never gets to play a character that isn't boring and just a generic stand-in for "desirable woman" in scripts written by guys that go out of their way to avoid making her the MPDG and instead just write her so she gets occasionally angry

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

xp have never watched an episode of mad men, was under the impression her character isn't really central to it

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

but yeah i was joking about that, but i seriously have no idea what she'll do after this

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

but but but

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

yvette goes back to drake and josh, av club starts reviewing drake and josh

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Monday, 21 May 2012 05:01 (fourteen years ago)

alison brie has been doing movies, she's in "the five year engagement" right now

producer / dj / humanitarian (reddening), Monday, 21 May 2012 05:04 (fourteen years ago)


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