Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

lol, module delivered on both threads

xost Stoke get away with things because referees look at the first minute of a game and think: "Jesus. If I blow for everything we're not going to get any football between the free kicks." So they don't blow. They allow Stoke to dictate what the rules of the game are to be. Wimbledon did the same thing. And it's not just at the Britannia - it's on the road too.

aye you see that a lot with early fouls. Today in the Scottish Cup Final there was a blatant elbow by a Hearts player that was 70/30 yellow/red imo and it went unpunished - pundits were saying the ref didn't want to book anyone too early because he wanted to keep a lid on the game o_O

idk, if stoke players were already getting booked for persistent tactical fouling by about 15 mins, you might actually see some football

The decapitation-at-the-thighs by Vinnie Jones on Steve McMahon in the first minute or two of the 1988 FA Cup Final is an astounding example of the genre

Didn't work so well for Gazza in 91, but then Spurs did win the cup so who's to say tbh

aye you see that a lot with early fouls. Today in the Scottish Cup Final there was a blatant elbow by a Hearts player that was 70/30 yellow/red imo and it went unpunished - pundits were saying the ref didn't want to book anyone too early because he wanted to keep a lid on the game o_O

Then booked a Hibs player a few mins later (not to mention the dodgy penalty)

Stoke 9/2
Everton 11/2
anywhere in the MLS 10
QPR 12
to be officially retired on the first day of next season 12

owen?

Owen?

xp :)

who else? the man loves a flutter

how about?
West Ham 4
Blackpool 9
West Brom 9
Southampton 12
Reading 16
Wolves 16
Bolton 20
Blackburn 25

not Owen

Grant holt

Holt is even money to join Sunderland.

Those odds are for Joseph Anthony "Joey" Barton.

If QPR are really paying him 90k a week, he'll be going nowhere

He's likely to miss a third of the season after his final game shenanigans. That's like £1m for sitting around unless QPR work out a way to fine him.

run book on destination of no mark player
spread retarded ITK rumours on twitter
profit

lock thread

na

redknapp out

now lock this cunt

http://i.imgur.com/1Q0ai.jpg

I have heard that Redknapp goes to Chelsea.

It has been said authoritatively but I feel that it will not happen.

The rest is close season.

hello football fans

a small question out of mild curiosity. last night my twitter timeline EXPLODED in unanimous hatred for someone called john terry. i assume this is a footballer. what has he done to be so bad & hated?

(bear in mind i assume all footballers are one or all of racist/homophobic/rapists/thugs given that the only times they impinge on my consciousness are because of one of those things, so to be EXTRA hated he must be really awful)

haha

lex

there is, iirc, a thread actually called 'john terry- why is he so bad & hated?'

i'm not sure it even explains so much as vents that hatred tho.

he is really, really awful- even for an english international millionaire professional footballer

And last night he got what he wanted most in all the world.

it's v hard to explain the difference between Terry and yr conception of pro-footballers in general except to say that Terry seems unhealthily comfortable with his lifestyle choices more than most players i guess

ah. ok. that thread's opening few posts are quite succinct. he really is that much worse than the rest? do even the fans of his club hate him? or maybe i just don't follow any of them. lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

most of his club's fans like him, many England supporters like him, we'd have to go into the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England too.

srsly don't believe lex has never heard the phrase 'john terry' before today given his sterling attempts to be the most extracurricular football player of all time with his forays into criminal justice, celebrity gossip etc

going into that would be about the only thing that could make football interesting for me!

xp i may have done but footballers' names mostly don't stick in the mind, they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

maybe worth doing a 'the weird socio-geographic rifts that run thru the notion of supporting England' ILE thread

ambiguity of 'England' deliberate

i'm sure we've had some debate about it on the England manager threads but i don't know if there's a full-on thread dedicated to it

and possibly wider - english athletes in general? i have always found the assumption that english audiences are only interested in hearing about english sportspeople quite weird and frustrating

possibly relevant in OLYMPICS YEAR

also the thread on nationalism which was more US-centred i think. but i'm clearly in too funny a mood to argue about stuff today. don't know why tbh.

Union Jacks almost automatically make me boo and i can't explain that fully either.

He is the ur-cheating all-racist thug though. The thing that makes him particularly hateful is that he dresses this up in quasi-heroic for England and St George blather and whenever he gets called out on anything his usual response is "I didn't do it" even when it's caught on camera that he did.

oh god one of my friends delivered some a+++++ union jacks commentary on twitter the other day, if i knew how to screencap or anything i'd repost it somewhere

they're not as bad as st george's crosses obv but being surrounded by them in JUBILOLYMPICS YEAR is doing my blood pressure no good at all

yeah, i enjoy most sports but the combination of the Monarchy, the Olympics and a kind of One Show all-in-this-together Britishness is making me half pukey half psycho at the mo

lol @ him being england CAPTAIN, why would they pick someone so unanimously reviled?

he is especially representative imo

they all blur into one all-cheating all-racist thug

that thug is john terry, tbh

so would there be something in the theory that he is some sort of lightning rod focus for everything (fans) already hate about the sport? encapsulating all the negativity that you kind of have to ignore or do some suspension-of-disbelief shiz elsewhere?

that's pretty astute

I don't know that we ignore it, but yeah there might be something in that, especially in him wearing his ugliness/unthinkingness as a badge of pride.

There's also a monumental lack of self-awareness, combined with ruthless, a bit cheaty and morally-unmerited success, that is most distasteful. He reminds me a lot of Gordon Brown actually.

yeah it's true, and i kinda why i find the visceral hatred of him either hysteric/hyperbolic or just lame like the LOL JT IS A CUNT stuff which is an insult to the proud tradition of lol football via ken c and a hoy hoy

i was going to do a poll of most hateful golden generation player but i think ive brought enough rote negativism to the board as it is

nobody who has seen the super grainy footage of lampard jr and ferdinand sr trying to coerce blowjobs out of girls in ayia napa circa 2000 could plausibly argue that terry is an altogether worse category to them

My performance was on the same tape as a recording of Kieron and Frank with a couple of birds, but it wasn’t all at the same time.

I didn’t even know about what they had done, it was not all one big orgy, as was reported.

Somehow, the camera got nicked. About two weeks later I got a call from a newspaper about a video of me shagging a bird. I could have fainted.

The video was wrong, yet to me it was harmless, just part of growing up.

The truth is some women will do anything to crack on with footballers and, let’s be fair, which young players would pass up the opportunity to take them up on some of their offers?

Some birds will buy you drinks all night, strip for you, get shagged with other people in the room and do all sorts of tricks. It was highly embarrassing.

a marina hyde column describes it as 'ordering them to perform a lesbian sex show', i guess the beejes required no persuasion

also id forgotten that lampard was involved in the famous post-september 11th abuse of american tourists at an airport

these last few tweets from nakhchivan are kind of why i was curious in the first place b/c i thought the kind of behaviour i was reading about from terry was...commonplace among footballers