Rolling Stand-Up Comedy 2012

There's definitely something Hedberg-y about his delivery but I love Hedberg so this isn't a problem for me.

i didn't get the Hedberg thing, MH always seemed very arch and distant in his presentation and HB seems very personable and comfortable in his own skin by comparison

Well, I mean it quite literally in the way that they speak. They both share a sort of halting speech and dropping of sentences where you'd expect them to continue.

ok that makes more sense...there's definitely some of that "i don't need to play that thought out 100%, you get the idea," which tbh is probably off-putting more often than not to me

my boyfriend is gonna be out of town all weekend and finesse mitchell is doing 3 sets at the laugh factory literally half a block from my house... should i go?

man if you live that close to the laugh factory you should probably schedule your visits around when great comedians are there rather than whoever's there when your social calender is empty tbh

actually the schedule is kinda shitty and it's not like LA where chappelle might randomly wander on stage or w/e

you should totally go!

chelsea peretti is at the lincoln lodge, which is like a block from my house, in a couple of weeks, was thinking of doing that

actually finesse mitchell is not until next week

this weekend = Featuring David Koechner, Matt Dwyer, Joe Kilgallon & Andy Paley!

*shrugs*

champ is the worst character in anchorman and one of my least favorite characters in any movie that i outright love

yeah that's kinda meh

Hannibal is one of the best guys doing it.

i don't live too far from Magooby's Joke House which, despite the horrific name, occasionally gets some pretty good comics, haven't checked it out yet though

ok that makes more sense...there's definitely some of that "i don't need to play that thought out 100%, you get the idea," which tbh is probably off-putting more often than not to me

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One of the best parts on the new Hannibal CD is him going, "He said something, then I said something, then he said something... <i>you know how conversations go</i>." Like, so obv he's a 30 Rock writer, because that's a show obsessed in the silliness of how we talk and interact with each other

Bodymore, Murderland, home of Magooby's Joke House

Smooth.

http://breakfastcookie.tumblr.com/post/26879625651/so-a-girl-walks-into-a-comedy-club

I read that this morning and couldn't figure out why this thing was any different than any of the million bazillion rape jokes people have told in comedy clubs since the beginning of time

I think it's because he suggested that an audience member actually deserved to get raped?

Just a guess.

I'm not the PC police or anything and I have said some truly offensive shit in my day, but standing on stage and telling someone she deserves to be raped is next-level fucked up and this guy deserves every bit of shit he's getting/going to get for this.

You really don't see the difference between a "typical" rape joke and specifically calling out for a real person in the audience to get gang raped? Alright then.

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Maybe i didn't read it close enough? Hicks used to do shit like than and was called a hero!

I sincerely don't remember Hicks doing that, but I've only seen a couple of his specials.

Well, Daniel Tosh certainly sucks

I think we can all agree on that.

not the same thing but here's the Hicks vs female heckler clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdKpR9qNtg

i can't watch it right now at work, but i am very interested in knowing whether bill hicks suggested that it would be funny if a woman in the audience was raped. can someone recap for me?

Tosh is definitely "becoming his character", Andrew Dice Clay-style

I've never been a fan of Hicks either, but even that's a few degrees cooler than what Daniel Tosh did the other night.

Hicks doesn't specifically do a rape bit in that clip but he's okay with as many misogynist slurs as he can think up on the spot. then he tries to laugh it off. i dunno, i've seen his "look at all my little miracles" bit, i never really had him pegged as a "hero"

Oh yeah, Bill Hicks definitely has achieved some kind of hero status among comedians and fans of comedy. For whatever reason. I still think he's not much more than a guy who rants.

xxpost to Mordy: No but he screamed at her about being a cunt for a good minute. But he kinda comes out of the fugue and makes fun of himself so it's a lot removed from Tosh.

I hate Tosh, this just makes me happy to hate him more...and he's a piece of shit.

That being said, the notion that what she had to say was somehow going to correct the course of the performer on stage just...I dunno. I don't like it when people feel the need to interact with the performer, it makes me nervous because some comedians when they're cornered and they don't do crowd work...man alive some of them just unload and it's awful. Not to excuse Tosh, or to say she deserved it in any way. I just think, in the hands of a good crowdwork comedian that doesn't happen but those guys are rare. I'm glad she left but she should have left sooner.

yeah Michael Richards is terrible at crowd work too i hear

lol

idk, i feel kind of psyched that she felt the need to say something than just allowing herself to be bullied out of a night on the town.
i would buy that gal a drink. xp

^^ RATHER than

I don't know, I'm actually sort of weirdly impressed by her speaking up, even if it was kind of a bad idea and unlikely to turn her way. There's something admirable about standing up for yourself even when the odds are SO stacked against you. Takes some kinda courage in a roomful of people like that.

agreed

Yeah, according the story, Daniel Tosh came out and said "Rape jokes are never not funny" which is basically BEGGING for interaction from his audience. She either took the bait or stood up for common sense, depending on how you look at it. Faulting her in any way for rubbing his shit in his face is weak.

I'm not really faulting her for it. At least that's not what I mean. I guess it's just hindsight is 20/20. There's no way that she doesn't immediately become the story for saying that. It's a good thing to say. But now what? now YOU'RE the show. and no-one is ever ready for that unless they're drunk out of their minds or with a bachelorette party.

and he's a shitty ass comedian and he punished her for 'ruining' his shitty 'bit'. which is cowardly and cheap.

I hope he takes a lot of heat for this. Because beyond anything it's lazy and weak.

i'm curious if any other patrons of the club left with the two girls. i somehow doubt it.

i always feel like you can say whatever you want in a comedy club. and people can yell at you if they don't like it!

yeah that seems doubtful.

xpost

also remember this guy has a tv show that is hugely popular among adolescent males--i don't think he has a responsibility to be a role model, but i think if i were a parent i would be absolutely outraged and probably write angry letters to whatever channel he is on.

fwiw, i have never been to a comedy club and i probably never will be. just not my bag. two drink minimum? pfft.

i mean i just think they should be censorship-free zones. comedy stages. you can hate it or yell at the guy or leave but he should be able to be as dumb as he wants to be on that stage. if he had said that on the street to someone i would have an entirely different opinion.

i suppose some US comedians are jealous that he's got such high profile gigs without earning his dues on the club circuit, so that's poss your agenda from those guys. i'm not so fussed about that but i do find his persona fairly obnoxious and mostly unfunny, fairly baffling how highly he's regarded in 'twitter comedy' terms. i guess the fascination from seeing him do so badly on kimmel (and his subsequent attempts at wiping it from history) is that it flags up how something that works in one medium can be so poor in another (see also http://splitsider.com/2013/06/the-pile-of-h-that-was-h-my-dad-says/ ).

but more than that it's just hilarious to see someone stride up, all full of conviction that his 'offbeat take on the world' will resonate with the public at large - "i had tacos for lunch, i had like 7 or 8 of them" - to be met with zero laughter and it get worse over the next 5 minutes. no conspiracy dude, just mean-spirited laughs.

this club set you saw, was it similar material to the kimmel stuff or more traditional comedy stuff?

Fair enough. I don't have it in me to get off on people crashing (even people I loathe) - it's not that I think I'm above it; I just can't handle the cringes. When I saw him it was in a tiny club in West London - he was a genuinely surprise drop in on a monthly bill featuring a lot of alt. types. It was all very anecdotal, I guess it was just a funnier set of stories (I wouldn't try to re-create them, but one was about his friend who could see his downstairs neighbors have S&M sex parties through a hole in the floor, and it was genuinely pretty hilarious).

There's definitely something in Delaney's delivery that surprised me when I first saw him after reading his Tweets, but I can't quite figure it out. He's very theatrical; maybe a little camp, and it definitely comes off as a little cocky. The stuff I've read with him, though, he seems like he's pretty aware of the fact that he's new at all of it and still working things out. He seems to try to emphasize that his stand-up is way different from his Twitter stuff. In a lot of interviews, he's super earnest, which is unlike 95% of comics and is kind of admittedly unsettling.

With his Twitter stuff (and like I said, I don't really know about any insider 'Twitter comedy' scenes or anything like that), I admire the fact that he tries (and sticks to) about 8 or 10 different *types* of jokes (e.g. his anti-pot jokes; his running gag about his neighbor Karen; his typo-laden ".@" tweets to Fox News or sex therapists or whoever; the jokes where the gag is that it's supposed to look like a DM that he accidentally Tweeted (e.g. "Meet behind the dumpster at 6pm. PS how hairy we talkin'?"; etc. etc.). I mean, if you don't like his stuff, fair enough, but there's something to his commitment to trying a bunch of different types of gags. A lot of the funny accounts I've followed have one real gag at the heart of them and can run out of steam pretty quickly, I think.

I just read that Scott Long article you posted, and it seems like that dude is just super bitter and angry about Delaney getting gigs based on his Twitter following (I don't see why that's any less legit than anything else, personally, but I don't have a real purist 'gotta earn your stripes playing shithole clubs around America' fetish kind of thing - it's a different era and all that). He's manufactured a fake conspiracy (neither his site nor the site called, oof, "Bro Bible" offers any proof that he's tried to suppress the thing at all) and it comes off as pretty desperate, I think.

I mean, here's that dude. Watch this and tell me that he would kill on Kimmel with this material!! I mean, Jesus Christ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udxsmi9Tzg4

haven't watched his stand-up but he was pretty awful on the otherwise funny web series "burning love"

but I don't have a real purist 'gotta earn your stripes playing shithole clubs around America' fetish kind of thing - it's a different era and all that

lol, purist fetish. it couldnt just be that it takes a long time and a lot of repetition to improve your craft enough that you can handle spotlight gigs like late night. damn those fussy old Comedy Rockists, insisting on people actually being funny. move over for the new era, gramps - relentless self-promotion is the new 'having talent'

But there *is* something comedy rockist about it! I mean, in this case it's an old fashioned light night chat show set, but trying to play off the dozens of post-Lonely Island routes to comedy notoriety these days seems kind of stubborn. He had a shitty night! Homeboy whose video I posted a couple of posts ago talks in that article aout gigging since '95, and I'll be damned if he has a joke in his arsenal.

Delaney is definitely better than the dude who wrote this article, but he is worse than 99% of other headliners.

^^exaggeration

But there *is* something comedy rockist about it!

who cares. its 2013, not 2003... u should be embarrassed u ever cared about that kind of thing, not picking up the torch of lameness and carrying it even further

but trying to play off the dozens of post-Lonely Island routes to comedy notoriety these days seems kind of stubborn

this is b.s. man... who's trying to play anything off? you use "comedy notoriety" to imply that all comedy is the same, but the guy got big off one style of comedy (and really he just got big in the way any mediocre blogger becomes successful - consistent stream of content and tireless self-promotion) and then used that to pump up his stand-up career - a totally different discipline. and thats fine but headlining in one role he's terrible at, based on him being popular for something else, is definitely worth giving him shit over

comedy rockism is the worst and so is rob delaney

haha, you changed your name to comedy rockism? peace

hey so there's this messageboard poster and he says to this other messageboard poster

i wanna be a robdelbaby

i was actually having a standup rockism rant the other night, because there was a Dave Foley standup special on Showtime that was just depressingly bad, and i've started to have a real dislike for guys who start doing standup well after becoming famous/successful for doing comedy in sitcoms or sketch shows -- often because they're not getting cast in stuff much anymore and it's easier to just book a bunch of club dates off of name recognition to pay the bills. i'm sure there are counter examples that would make my snobbishness about this seem silly, but i can't think of any.

like HBO still reruns their 'young comics' specials from the 80s and 90s and there's this one hosted by John Candy where he does a few minutes of material and it's just like...man you're a brilliant comic actor but that is clearly not your bag

i have 100% compassion for anything dave foley does after hearing abt his neverending money problems on WTF (speaking of comedy rockism)

but the thing is there seems to be a difference between hating certain people doing standup because you're a comedy insider gatekeeping asshole and hating them because they suck at standup, which is the case w/delaney and apparently foley. if he were great at it would you have still been ranting?

yeah i definitely kinda feel like ok dave, you have a lifetime pass from me for KITH, go ahead and pay your bills. but when he got into a 5-minute bit about how he's afraid of muslims i had to turn it off.

I'm a fan of Dave Foley's ex and I've always wondered if some percentage of his WTF claims were bullshit.

ok i no longer have endless compassion for dave foley

only reviving cos that Bill Burr shit still gives me the thunder-LOLs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jMhoGUiIkk

"Fuckin Rocky is your hero, the whole part of your city is built around a fuckin' guy that doesn't even exist. Fuckin' Joe Frazier is from there, but he's Black, so you can't fuckin' deal with him, so you make a fuckin' statue for a 3 foot fuckin' Italian, you stupid Philly cheese eatin' fuckin jackasses".

Bill Burr is a professional moron

cool thoughts man

He's the type of dude who corners you at a show and tries to talk to you about something he read on infowars.com

I just found out one of my work colleagues moonlights as a fairly well respected standup, and is running a 17 night show at the MICF this and next week, wtf.

is your colleague Seinfeld?

hah thankfully no.

saw Bill Burr in Toronto last year, walked out after 15 minutes of white guy yelling about things not being catered to his personal convenience at all times, plus "tranny" jokes

I think the only standup I hate more than Burr is Stanhope, but it's kind of a tossup most of the time.

Oh wait, I think hate Daniel Tosh more than either of those guys, but I'd be cool with shooting all of them on a rocket into the sun.

Just ban male comedians for a few generations imo

If you don't think Burr is funny on at least some level you're weird IMO

Been watching a lot of Burr videos on youtube recently, enjoying a lot of it. The way some of his fans label his videos you can tell they want (NEED) him to be far more prejudiced and conspiracy crazy than he is. They do this with Chapelle too and probably a lot of other comedians. Like you have a 10 minute video and the title is something like "comedian explains why women are worthless and totally DESTROYS them" and there's just one brief joke about women in the whole thing. Now those fans are calling him a traitor for making fun of conspiracy nuts and racists.
I did hear him say he used to be into conspiracy stuff though.

Bill Burr is great, especially his interview on Conan which is all-time. Surprised at the outright dissing in this thread