the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:52 (fourteen years ago)

BO with Russian. EXISTING STOCK.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 May 2012 07:49 (fourteen years ago)

BO walks the famed walk from the Oval Office to the residence, colonnades on the left. It is at first a cocky, self-assured walk. As he walks toward us, however, the cockiness lessens and he literally gets shorter and shorter, ending up just 2-3 feet tall as he walks past camera on the left.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 May 2012 07:52 (fourteen years ago)

the left!

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 May 2012 07:53 (fourteen years ago)

So in addition to cliched rightwing PAC stuff we have Romney himself saying stuff that Democratic cheerleader blogs like Washington Monthly correctly point out is absurd(Romney is now pointing out that Clinton was a fiscally smart Dem and Obama isn't--but neglecting to mention that Clinton raised taxes on the rich). But does this stuff even make it into inside the beltway op-eds or network tv or website homepage headlines? Probably not, but neither does Greenwald and others' coverage of civil liberties.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_05/the_clinton_doctrine_revisited037423.php

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)

x-post- Hannity on Fox and others disappointed in Romney not emphasizing Rev Wright stuff.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/05/18/hannity_wright_and_the_dreams_of_the_gop_base.html

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

i just got an email from sarah jessica parker!!!

goole, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Are you selling oats?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

oh snap

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

her face looks like a horse's.

pplains, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

That might be considered sexist by some (although if you will make fun of her hubby's looks, that will make it even)

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

her husband is a negligent killer.

pplains, Friday, 18 May 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/obama-love-letter-truthers

Maybe the wrong thread as this issue is not likely to determine the election

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

v excited to party with SJP. bringing some schlitz and a bag of pretzels

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 18 May 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

But in a certain sense, the entire Romney campaign is one big dog whistle aimed at appealing to persuadable voters on the single issue of the economy, while letting the restive “base” hear all sorts of other things involving cultural resentments and the desire to return to the good old days before the New Deal and the 60s began to ruin the Founders’ design and defy the Creator’s moral code.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_05/the_big_dog_whistle037436.php

dog whistle

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 May 2012 14:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/romney-fenced-immigration

another reason this election is so frustrating

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/federal-budget-tax-policy-austerity-mitt-romney-barack-obama-cbo-spending-cuts.php?ref=fpa

more reasons to be disallusioned

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

What was the allusion?

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Friday, 25 May 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

good point

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 May 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/barack-obama-2012-6/index1.html

Huge insider quoting article on the Obama campaign and how they will go negative but worry that they will have less money than the super pac and Wall Streeters supporting Romney

A prominent private-equity player in Gotham who supports Obama agrees with all of that but adds another insight. �Among rich Republicans, the view of Obama is that he’s the Devil,� this person says. �But on the Democratic side, certainly on Wall Street, there’s no visceral reaction against Romney. So if I give $10 million, I’m out the $10 million, and I’m gonna pay more in taxes if Obama wins. And I’m doing it against somebody who�I may not agree with his social views, but I don’t think he’s a bad person. And I’m not really into negative advertising, which is what a super-PAC would do � Then there’s the fact nobody on Wall Street thinks Obama gives a sh-- about them. They think his attitude is, �If I lose Wall Street, it’s not the end of the world.’ And they’re right.�

Whatever the causes, the consequences for Obama may prove dire. Burton reckons that, in the end, the cumulative spending on the Democratic side will be about $1 billion, compared with maybe $1.6 billion on the Republican side. And while the latter may be exaggerated for effect�other savvy Democrats put the GOP figure at more like $1.3 billion�there’s little doubt in either partisan camp that we are about to witness the improbable development of an incumbent president’s being financially overmatched.

It concerns me gravely,� Plouffe tells me. �From a political standpoint, I’m almost as worried about that as I am about the question of what the economy’s gonna do over the next three or four months.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

Come back to the Five and Dime, Newt:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/mitt-romney-abc-washington-post-poll-favorability-barack-obama.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Jesus Christ. $2.3 billion.

oh jeez. I can feel myself quicken. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

that's a lot of free speech

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

no Buffett Tax or Bush tax cut repeals regardless of who's in the Oval Office, methinks.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

LOL Z S

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

no Buffett Tax or Bush tax cut repeals regardless of who's in the Oval Office, methinks.

this is more down to congress than anything else tho

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

Yep. But Congressional Dems will not likely be strong enough.

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Throughout the primaries, Romney routinely drew low marks from voters. That was particularly true among women, as Republicans drew criticism for trying to curtail coverage for contraception. But the survey shows Romney has rebounded with women. Forty percent view him favorably, up from 27 percent a month ago.

Polls. I don't get you American people (in poll cited by tpm).

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

yeah ignore "likability" polls. I'm very likable but I suck.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

poll doesn't reflect anything more than Romney securing the nomination/GOP voters not having any other options

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Someone should tell Plouffe that Shakey has guaranteed re-election, so no biggie

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

For those of you stuck in a cave for the next several months, here is the precis:

Romney's message: Obama is Satan. I am a super hero from whose anus sunlight floods.

Obama's message: Romney is a hearltess, soulless baby-eater. I am the Way and the Light.

Aimless, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

In general, I agree that likeability won't move elections much--it's a threshold thing, and as long as you clear the "s/he'll do" bar, you're electable. But for a long time, Romney was falling well short of that bar. With so much economic data seemingly frozen in place in the iffy grey area, I assumed one of Obama's clear advantages in November would be that most voters like him, and most clearly don't like Romney. So I'm not suggesting this poll means that people are suddenly in love with Romney--really, who could love Romney except Mrs. Romney?--just that he's starting to clear the "he'll do" threshold. And I do think that matters in terms of Obama's chances. Whenever you'd write something like "this guy is so doomed," Shakey Mo, it was often after Romney had said something stupid. Just an opinion, but I think that between "that guy says some stupid thing" and "I have a visceral dislike for that guy," the latter is far more damaging.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

(That last post might be enough to get iatee back on here: following an opening "Eh," he can patiently explain how I'm completely wrong.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

(has anybody tried bumping the sburbs thread?)

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Thursday, 31 May 2012 03:39 (fourteen years ago)

lol

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 31 May 2012 04:06 (fourteen years ago)

wait where did iatee go?

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

Out to the country, got a big farm. lots of fresh air.

pplains, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:13 (fourteen years ago)

oh, figures.

thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

Lots of peaches, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcohzJvviQ

clemenza, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

Bad news is he has to commute 40 miles each way to his job in the city.

nickn, Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

He could no longer afford to live in his neighborhood.

the conch is a well worn copy of the AD&D Fiends Folio (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

"Corporations are people"

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Barack, we hardly knew ye.

clemenza, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

Am I just not remembering, or were monthly jobs reports as big a deal 20 years ago? I followed Bush/Clinton pretty closely, and while I remember attention being paid to the general unemployment rate and GDP numbers, I don't recall such life-or-death anticipation of every jobs report.

clemenza, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

well we're in a pretty big financial hole, more than twenty years ago

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

Attempted augury of voters's November mood swings, five months in advance, so investors can buy the correct product in the presidential market?

Aimless, Friday, 1 June 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

Guessing I'm probably the worst-dressed person ever to receive an e-mail from Anna Wintour.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

obv you've never read The Zizek-Wintour Letters

Mordy, Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)


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