I'm a sucker for movies about masochism, the nature of pain, and weirdo surrealism, so while watching hellraiser all I could think was, "this is checking all my boxes. why isn't it pushing my buttons?"
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
the cenobite that shoots CDs was some kind of high point for the series...
Hellraiser III is to the Hellraiser franchise what Michael Keaton's mentally-handicapped third clone was to Multiplicity. And the rest of the Hellraisers are what would have happened if Michael Keaton had just kept cloning his clones.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
(I just watched Multiplicity for the first time the other day, so I was also mentally comparing Jeremy Irons' performance in Dead Ringers to Michael Keaton's. I'm sure I'll find some parallel when Human Centipede shows up, as well.)
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
There are 9 Hellraiser films. NINE. Watching them all would be a Cenobite-level experience in masochism, I suspect.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
Andrew Robinson, y'all. Without him Hellraiser would not have worked at all.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
Prefer hellraiser 2 to one, but one is def nice to see here. 3 is a terrible abomination.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
"You remind me of the BOO! What BOO? BOO with the VOODOO! Who BOO? BOO BOO! BOO what? Remind me of the BOO!"
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77. PAN'S LABYRINTHGuillermo Del Toro, Spain, 2006(246 points, 9 votes)
When Tool videos come to life. Or should that be the Brothers Quay?― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:44 AM (6 years ago)yes, this film also struck me as being a crudely mechanistic and obvious riff on Spirit of the Beehive― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, January 5, 2007 9:00 AM (5 years ago)(2) The audience reaction was quite interesting; I'm not sure if they understood their own feelings. When Mercedes enacted her vengeance on el Capitan, the audience applauded as if it was a Dirty Harry movie; it was cathartic and, for them, necessary. But when they realized that Ofelia was NOT going to live the theater went still. It was the quietest exit I've seen all year.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:35 PM (5 years ago)I can't even figure out how I feel about his movie, but a half hour after watching it last night I had an uncontrollable crying jag–the kind of deep sobs that don't make sounds. I normally like ambiguous endings but this one hurt (not to say I didn't like it). It was kind of like THE PLAGUE DOGS–inability to exist in this certain world coupled with a cruel and sad fantasy of an uncertain nature, just too bittersweet a rescue.― Abbott (Abbott), Monday, January 15, 2007 4:09 PM (5 years ago)By my personal estimation it's roughly the 9th-best film in the worst year of commercial cinema since the nickelodeons opened― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 6, 2007 1:24 PM (5 years ago)
yes, this film also struck me as being a crudely mechanistic and obvious riff on Spirit of the Beehive― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, January 5, 2007 9:00 AM (5 years ago)
(2) The audience reaction was quite interesting; I'm not sure if they understood their own feelings. When Mercedes enacted her vengeance on el Capitan, the audience applauded as if it was a Dirty Harry movie; it was cathartic and, for them, necessary. But when they realized that Ofelia was NOT going to live the theater went still. It was the quietest exit I've seen all year.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:35 PM (5 years ago)
I can't even figure out how I feel about his movie, but a half hour after watching it last night I had an uncontrollable crying jag–the kind of deep sobs that don't make sounds. I normally like ambiguous endings but this one hurt (not to say I didn't like it). It was kind of like THE PLAGUE DOGS–inability to exist in this certain world coupled with a cruel and sad fantasy of an uncertain nature, just too bittersweet a rescue.― Abbott (Abbott), Monday, January 15, 2007 4:09 PM (5 years ago)
By my personal estimation it's roughly the 9th-best film in the worst year of commercial cinema since the nickelodeons opened― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 6, 2007 1:24 PM (5 years ago)
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
not a bad movie but blargh
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
( psst Eric, plz check yr email! )
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
del toro's appreciation of the horror genre is deep and admirable tho. loved it when he did his top horror movie picks.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
I quite liked PL, but I would never have voted for it in this poll. My GDT votes went instead to The Devil's Backbone, which is straight-up one of my favorite movies of the last decade or so (in addition to it being more conventional in terms of horror)
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
My memories of Pinhead's backstory as sketched out by I & II are fuzzy to me now, but I remember finding them fascinating and original at the time (ie, long ago).
Pinhead has a backstory? I don't recall this being ref'd in I at all tbh
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
for some reason PL made a much bigger impression on me than the devil's backbone, which I can't remember much from besides an unexploded bomb and thinking it was not a horror movie. still haven't seen cronos.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
My reaction to Pan's Labyrinth is visceral. very tangible, and for those who remember what it is like to be a child, emotionally and psychologically on target
I rated devil's backbone higher - dude gets the lonliness, directionlessness, and sometimes terror of being a child
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
If I recall, Pinhead has a rich & fulfilling backstory (so much so that I've forgotten it), but it must be Hellraiser 2 that dives into it. xpost
― The Thnig, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
bbbut there is a ghost in tdb, so it HAS to be horror, right?
xxp
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
nooooooooooooooooooo
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
I have done this. I'm still not sure why.
― Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
wait what? NINE hellraiser movies?
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
From Wikipedia & I'm sure you can attribute this to all the direct-to-video sequels:
When comparing the Hellraiser film series with the other top-grossing horror franchises—A Nightmare on Elm Street, Child's Play, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Saw, Scream, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre—and adjusting for the 2008 inflation,[13] Hellraiser is the lowest grossing horror franchise in the United States, at approximately $84 million.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
man if pan's lab places and cronos or devils backbone dont i swear you tweemo lotr fuckers
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
ok enough with the art films guys can you please let the next one be some shrieking grindhouse nightmare
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
I've watched up through Hellraiser In Space. After that GTFO. In fact, there isn't another franchise I can think of with more rapidly diminishing returns after the first installment.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
ha i'm taking no guff about any movie I voted for if Pan's Labyrinth makes the list. That said, I'm excited how many movies are on this I haven't seen.
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
if I thought Pan's Labyrinth was a snooze should I still check out Cronos and backbone?
devils backbone would have been my GTD if i had been forced to have one but yeah i dont want to be that guy here but this is shaping up to be a dark fantasy poll and not the horror poll i expected
xpost devils backbone is great, and far more horror than PL, i still havent gotten around to seeing cronos
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
In a horror poll, it's Cronos > Backbone > Pan's, but they're all top-drawer flicks.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
just glanced over my list, and while there could some debate as to whether they're "thrillers" or "horror" all of them have somebody dying violently, usually suddenly and disgustingly
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
backbone is more horror than dark fantasy imo
still have to check out cronos sometime.
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
77. Pan's Labyrinth76. Cannibal Holocaust75. Antropophagus74. The Others
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
man i just reread a bunch of my posts from today and apologize, i am not a dick i promise! and i actually liked pans labyrinth, i just get way too wound out about horror stuff because i spend so much time thinking abt/consuming it and so this poll is prob more important to me than it should be.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
i would like a good palate cleansing human centipedeish placement moment here soon tho for the good of humanity
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
phrases that have never been uttered before for good reason vol 1. "good palate cleansing human centipede"
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
I just checked and something like 3/4 of my ballot is composed of straight-up, unambiguously-horror horror films. I think a lot of the oddball, not-quite-horror films are gonna show up near the bottom of the results, so no fear, jjj.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
yo i heard that human feces was good as a palate cleanser
― Apartment of Evil (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
Bring on fear.com!
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
Yo, I heard that human feces was good as a plate cleaner.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
Cronos is the only del Toro I voted, and if Pan's is placing this low I doubt if it'll make the top hunnert. Good movie, tho.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
i voted for pan's labyrinth (though it wasn't high on my ballot). more b/c it was a good movie overall than because it was oooooooh scary -- though i kept thinking that that faun thing would snap and commit some really vile act of ultra-violence but never did.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
Surely our fave Cronenberg cameo is as the surgeon who delivers the maggot-baby in The Fly
Sorry--think I got the two confused.
― clemenza, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
Pan's Labyrinth is most interesting for trying to embed horror in a key historical event; in Hollywood we only are getting that, it appears, with this Lincoln Vampire Hunter bullshit.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
this is shaping up to be a dark fantasy poll and not the horror poll i expected
i'm okay with that, as at least half my ballot arguably falls into the "dark fantasy" category. i like what i like, what can i say? i also like moody, arty, atmospheric shit. and gore, but i'm weird that way. the idea that horror fandom isn't legit if it isn't sufficiently bloodthirsty and nihilistic is bullshit, imo. those are exploitation aesthetics, and they're not precisely the same as horror aesthetics. i'm kind of bummed by the tendency to confuse the two, tbh. i like grindhouse/exploitation/sleazy dirtbag movies, but i also like horror movies that have nothing (or just a little) to do with that.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
rant rant rant
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
xxpost
Yeah, but I think it'll actually be pretty interesting to see a filmed account of the vampire battles he fought around the time he signed the Declaration of Independence.
― Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
i'm okay with that
i'm not okay with that.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
oh just to be clear i am not calling anyones fandom into question here or questioning their legit horror cred, these last ten or so have just been kind of a rough patch to my particular brand of horror interests
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
we have 76 more films to go!
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
plenty of time left for corpse grinding and buckets of blood and disturbingly mutilated bodies etc.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Just to infuriate everyone, one of the films I found most unnerving in the past year or two was Harmony Korine's Trash Humpers.
― The Thnig, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
"Ooh, check it out, KIDDIES! A DIE, er, tie ranking!"
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75. (tie) CREEPSHOWGeorge A. Romero, USA, 1982(250 points, 10 votes)
75. (tie) INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERSDon Siegel, USA, 1956(250 points, 10 votes)
I can't get enough of Ed Harris' disco dance moves in the first Creepshow segment.― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:58 PM (7 years ago)man the cover of creepshow freaked me out so much as a kidjust watched it... it's adorable!― ksha (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, March 26, 2010 12:57 AM (2 years ago)Ooh. Creepshow. I don't know what it is about that movie, but it gets me a little. It's very overtly cartoonish for long stretches, and then there are these very vivid moments of horror that offset the cartoonishness in an unsettling way. And the Creep, just soundlessly standing outside of that kid's window. I love it.― Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:11 PM (4 years ago)I tried to watch Creepshow last night; I got through the one where Patsy Stone's dad crawls out of the grave and kills her while she lies there immobile for 30 seconds, and about 10 minutes into the one with the green moss, and just couldn't do it anymore. OTT dumbed-down shit grates on me so hardcore.― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:13 AM (3 weeks ago)
man the cover of creepshow freaked me out so much as a kidjust watched it... it's adorable!― ksha (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, March 26, 2010 12:57 AM (2 years ago)
Ooh. Creepshow. I don't know what it is about that movie, but it gets me a little. It's very overtly cartoonish for long stretches, and then there are these very vivid moments of horror that offset the cartoonishness in an unsettling way. And the Creep, just soundlessly standing outside of that kid's window. I love it.― Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:11 PM (4 years ago)
I tried to watch Creepshow last night; I got through the one where Patsy Stone's dad crawls out of the grave and kills her while she lies there immobile for 30 seconds, and about 10 minutes into the one with the green moss, and just couldn't do it anymore. OTT dumbed-down shit grates on me so hardcore.― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:13 AM (3 weeks ago)
The '78 version is about New Ageism. '56 is better especially without the wraparound they imposed on it.YOU'RE NEXT!― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:11 PM (7 years ago)Favorite Right-Wing Movies
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― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)