Atom Egoyan: Search and Destroy

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Kevin Bacon as a jewish comedian is the weirdest gentile-as-jew casting choice since Brendan Frasier in School Ties.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

i know!! colin firth as an italian is pretty weird too

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Well given that it's "guys like M & L..." Yes, still weird. (But they had Sean Hayes as Lewis in some TV film, which is just criminal.)

and what about when Melanie Griffith played a Hasid?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Search Gross Misconduct, a made-for-tv jobbie Egoyan did in 1993 about the tragic life of hockey star Brian 'Spinner' Spencer. Just so you can see the worst wannabe avant-garde piece of trash possibly ever shown on a national (CBC I think) television network. Egoyan wrapped up a very interesting story in all sorts of directorial hokum.

scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 02:44 (twenty years ago)

i havent seen where... yet, though i want to, i really admired the amerinan film he did before that, not exactly liked it, but had a really powerful script, and some great acting

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Ararat? I couldn't get into it at all.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

thats it
donald sutherland was amazing in it, and the writing was top notch. it wasnt a good movie, but an interesting one

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Paul Verhoeven on Egoyan's Exotica, in a Guardian interview around the time of Showgirls:

"That's a dishonest movie," Verhoeven says. "It's not showing the sleaze and just trying to be artistic. I protest against that. I'm a realist. I'm not selling it but showing it. If I'd wanted to sell it, then I would never have created this nasty, negative, backstabbing lying, cheating character of Nomi [the lead role, played by Elizabeth Berkley]. That's going against every convention. People want a fucking whore, and then they want her to have a good heart."

All that, of course, does make Nomi remarkably difficult to empathise with. "So's Lady Macbeth," Verhoeven says.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"donald sutherland was amazing in it, and the writing was top notch. it wasnt a good movie, but an interesting one"

Donald Sutherland was in it? I don't recall him at all. Are you thinking of Christopher Plummer?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Paul Verhoeven is very weird. A realist! *guffaw*

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

search: calendar
meh: exotica, sweet hereafter
destroy: felicia's journey

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

i have a copy of the adjuster, should I watch it?

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I still love The Sweet Hereafter to death, mostly because Ian Holm is phenomenal in it. Plus, he's a better adapter than original screenwriter (Felicia's Journey was a snooze though).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I like The Adjuster quite a bit.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I liked the Adjuster and Exotica, though I don't think I'd seen any of Egoyan's later films until Where The Truth Lies.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

"Plus, he's a better adapter than original screenwriter (Felicia's Journey was a snooze though)."

That's bonkers.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Wait a minute, The Sweet Hereafter has Bob Hoskins AND Ian Holm? Wouldn't they cancel each other out somehow?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Bob Hoskins isn't in the The Sweet Hereafter. He was in Felicia's Journey.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Hoskins stars in Felicia's Journey, not Hereafter.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

That's bonkers.

Most of his original dialogue sounds like Japanese koans translated into English.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

They should have gotten Hoskins to be the video-game version of Ian Holm in ExistenZ.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Haha even if that were true (and it only OCCASSIONALLY is) his original screenplays are a million times more interesting (and unusual) than any of his adapted stuff. I guess I really don't care if he writes his own stuff. I just want him to stop making crap.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Agreed.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Verhoeven utterly missing the point of Exotica non shocker

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

made-for-tv jobbie Egoyan did in 1993 about the tragic life of hockey star Brian 'Spinner' Spencer. Just so you can see the worst wannabe avant-garde piece of trash

Not all a-v Canadian hockey films can be Cowards Bend the Knee, you know.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Did anyone see Adoration? This played for like one week in Berkeley and I appear to have missed it.

akm, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:01 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

...and here's the trailer for Chloe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPimNHuCoRQ

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 10:35 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

remembered this guy during films of the 00's poll, thought how he had really fallen off compared to the previous decade

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/chloe/

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 10:38 (sixteen years ago)

He fell off as soon as he stopped writing his own scripts.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

had no idea he had another one out so soon. I still haven't seen the last one. Which is weird because he was probably my favorite modern director for a number of years there.

akm, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 17:47 (sixteen years ago)

I've only seen three of his films, I think. He's sometimes at the Cinematheque (Toronto) when I see films there. I'm not bold enough to go up to him and say, "Stop--please."

clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

We watched Chloe last night... Mixed feelings on it. I guessed the twist right away (never saw the source film this was based on) but thought the third act was the weekest. Not bad though, the lead has great lips and curves... kinda this Sarah Polley meets ScarJo hybrid (straight up Egoyan's alley, iow). Julianne Moore is pretty decent too. I think this was the movie that Liam Neeson was filming when his wife died. Not sure if that affected his performance. Idk, I could go either way on this. Might watch again.

Fuck these fake assholes. They suck now.#0 (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

"Plus, he's a better adapter than original screenwriter"

Still can't believe someone believes this.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

Are you not familiar with Amanda Seyfried, Shasta? She's been getting a lot of roles lately.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:17 (fifteen years ago)

If you had looked at this poster when it came out, and were asked who would have the best career 7 years down the road, would you have picked Amanda Seyfried? I doubt that anyone would, yet here we are.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/Mean_Girls_movie.jpg/220px-Mean_Girls_movie.jpg

The Man Mens (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

felicia's journey was a weird freakin movie. idk what was even going on in that one.

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

Felicia's Journey came out while I was living in Birmingham, and it was fun to see my adopted home writ large.

reggaeton for the painfully alone (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

i haven't seen his last three films, for some reason. at one point he was my favorite filmmaker. I still think most of his stuff through Sweet Hereafter is top-notch. YOu need to get over the canadian-ness of some of the acting though.

akm, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

If you had looked at this poster when it came out, and were asked who would have the best career 7 years down the road, would you have picked Amanda Seyfried? I doubt that anyone would, yet here we are.

in the shower this morning i was trying to remember if amanda seyfried had been in this movie, and i managed to convince myself i'd been confusing her with blonde rachel mcadams.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 00:33 (fifteen years ago)

you all shouldve watched Veronica Mars, where Amanda Seyfried plays a better dead girl than Sheryl Lee...

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 01:34 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

Just watched Sweet Hereafter again; I think that movie has held up really well...

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

I was just thinking of watching that again. Love Ian Holmes's last line to Sarah Polley in that.

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

"Ian Holm's" rather

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

^yeah that's great! Holm is awesome; Polley, too.

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

Also the rare film that is better than the (well regarded) source novel. Seem to recall Banks liking Egoyan's additions as well.

Man, Egoyan - what happened, man?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 May 2011 04:02 (fifteen years ago)

stopped directing films he wrote, mainly. although I didn't see adoration (actually I haven't seen anything past ararat, which I think is very good)

akm, Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

although people liked chloe, didn't they?

akm, Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:31 (fifteen years ago)

Chloe has to be his biggest film; they were selling it at Walmart!

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 21 May 2011 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

it has the most famous lead acress of any of his films, which is why

akm, Saturday, 21 May 2011 21:22 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, right, it's just an erotic thriller from Atom Egoyan is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Walmart

I wonder what happened to his repertory...

excitebikable boy (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 22 May 2011 01:27 (fifteen years ago)

(probably could have used the word "still" less in that last post)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 03:29 (one year ago)

This one played TIFF in 2023--took that long to get it into theatres.

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 03:44 (one year ago)

Can’t wait. Agreed, his run through The Sweet Hereafter is all time. Of the recent films, I did see Chloe all I can tell you about it was that it seemed like a lesser De Palma movie. The “return to form!” reviews are out there. Reminds me of when Cronenberg began making movies like End Of Violence and Eastern Promises.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 10:34 (one year ago)

No love for Ararat? I think it’s his last genuinely great movie.

Slayer University (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 13:23 (one year ago)

For some reason I never saw it, don't know why, but iirc it was mostly panned. The first time I remember anyone needing to make a defense of one of his film was "Felicia's Journey," and if I remember right "Where the Truth Lies" was his first film hailed as any sort of comeback. But I don't think that stuck, and he's been wandering the wilds ever since. Clearly he still attracts good casts and gets movies made, but (haven't seen the new one) the spark and spotlight have mostly moved on.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 13:31 (one year ago)

Weird timing--immediately recognized the actor who plays the understudy as the surfer guy Jane takes up with in S2 of Big Little Lies, which I'm almost finished rewatching. Douglas Smith, a Canadian actor.

Anyway, based on ambition and execution, I'd give Seven Veils high marks. But I can't say I enjoyed it, and I know that's not what Atom Egoyan's about. Different temperament than mine, plus I'm a rube when it comes to opera. (My standard joke: everything I know about the subject comes from ELO's "Rockaria!") But: one of my favourite scenes this century is the daughter's radio debut in Todd Haynes' Mildred Pierce remake, so I do have it in me to respond.

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 21:47 (one year ago)

I liked Felicia's Journey, Bob Hoskins is great in it, but the book is indeed better.

Slayer University (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 22:23 (one year ago)

one year passes...

I recently saw Felicia's Journey and Where The Truth Lies. If that's his worst then that's really impressive because I was drawn into both of them. Where The Truth Lies was definitely missing something(s) though.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 June 2026 21:43 (four days ago)

chloe and the one with tge ekderly jewish person (can’t remember the title) are his worst

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 June 2026 21:45 (four days ago)

I'm seeing Chloe next.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 June 2026 22:16 (four days ago)

A shame his new one isn't on disc yet

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 June 2026 22:21 (four days ago)

Wouldn’t have been surprised if Chloe was one of his old Red Shoe Diaries episodes

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 June 2026 22:42 (four days ago)

Chloe is actually my favourite of his big-name pictures, it's the one time he succeeds in doing trash/pulp. For trash done badly, see Where the Truth Lies.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 6 June 2026 22:44 (four days ago)

still need to watch these seyfried films.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 6 June 2026 22:57 (four days ago)

I haven't kept up with his work, but I saw Seven Veils and thought it was all right. (The opening in particular made a strong impression - that was great.)

birdistheword, Sunday, 7 June 2026 00:06 (three days ago)

Yeah, I liked that one

Dr. Winston O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 June 2026 02:39 (three days ago)


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