2001: A Space Odyssey

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2001 in 70mm @ the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood (before they ruined it) was the best thing ever.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

It was my #2 in the poll. Strangelove was my #1.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

incredible

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/kubrick-2001.jpg

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

when i was still a student, we had some nasa-employed alumni come in and give a little talk about long-distance space travel(how you get to mars w/o going nuts, etc). some of them sat down one day to watch the footage of that spinning sequence, and figured out that it'd work fine, except that they were off. Either the carousel would have to be 2-3 times wider, or spin 2-3 times faster.

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I saw it as a pup at the NYC Ziegfeld on the first major re-release in '74; the first film with a narrative I had to struggle with. And I knew nothing about the primordial stuff going in, so you can imagine, wtf.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

still one of my favourite films of all time. the beaurocratic banter totally makes it. "i'm afraid i'm not at liberty to discuss it" - love that.

once saw a back-to-back screening of 2001/2010. i am probably one of the rare few who thought 2010 wasn't so bad... hell, i even read that damn 2061 book. is clarke still alive?

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

the birthday party for poole

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

SEE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY

john landis really ran with that...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

There's a running birthday motif -- Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole, HAL's (recalled as he dies) and Bowman/Star Child's.

2010 wasn't hideous, but it inevitably literalized everything. Tragic mundanity.

I didn't recall Clarke's status, but he just got honored in Sri Lanka (his adopted land).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

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is clarke still alive?

very much so! and living in shri lanka.

i love 2001.

latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole

I wonder if she ever got her bush baby.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

What's Dullea's other movie? About a hostile youth in a group home?

andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

The Hoodlum Priest? And he's in the currently filming CIA film directed by de Niro:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0001158/

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And "The Dawn of Man" birthday ... which covers both the man-apes and the moon excavation.

HAL was originally voiced by Bronx-accented Psycho detective Martin Balsam. I do a decent impression of HAL's rendition of "Daisy."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

What I hear when I receive e-mail.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Part of my ex-roomie's email is "ae35" (falsely malfunctioning unit on Discovery).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

I just think 2001 is boring. The only Kubrick I can get into is War Kubrick. The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining. Or the space baby thing with the fanfare. Give it a rest, beardo.

Full Metal Jacket
Dr. Strangelove
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!

BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

hands up whoever has used hal-9000 audio themes on their PCs. *raises hand*
hearing "just a moment..." is so much better than the stupid default windows exclamation. or the critical stop sound of "i'm sorry dave, i'm afraid i can't do that" (extra good if your name happens to be dave)

did you like Barry Lyndon, TOMBOT? it's got war in it.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Tombot (pls don't crack my ribs), did you see 2001 in a theater ever? Cuz it really is different, and not just in a widesceen outer-space way.

Man, Spartacus is fine as Decadent Hollywood Rome spectacles go, but i can't take that slaves-frolic-with-the-lambs shit.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Judging from the film ballots, you've all seen it on small black-and-white TVs.

And haven't seen La Jetée at all. But que sera, et al.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

I saw 2001 on a re-release on the old big screen at Unit Four in Wallasey (before they split it into two, maybe three screens) when I was 11 in the summer of 1979. Magical.

Isn't it the case that Sarah Cracknell was screentested for the Starchild? (Her dad was 1st AD.) Stanley decided to go with a fake.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Well, God knows what lengths Stan woulda gone to make infant Sarah Cracknell suggest Keir Dullea...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

I have not seen Barry Lyndon.
I have not seen 2001 in the theater.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

john landis really ran with that...

Not the only thing that he ran into the ground...

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm not THAT into Kubrick.

General Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bcp.psych.ualberta.ca/~mike/Pearl_Street/INTD554/Images/jpegs/Hal-2000.jpg

andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

wildcat vs apes
apes vs apes
men vs supercomputer

hence
2001 = WAR KUBRICK


Joshua??? Haha, is that the WarGames computer? You'd put a killer of astronauts up against something programmed by Matthew Broderick?!?

(Reagan-era kiddie nuke adventures: The Manhattan Project > WarGames)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

i have never seen this on a big screen. i liked it in college. these days i have gone back to preferring 'full metal jacket', and i think i'm right.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Dr Morbius why are you always wrong about everything?

The WOPR had the entire nuclear arsenal of the world at its disposal. It almost wiped out the human race. They couldn't shut it down, they had to teach it futility. That's a much, much more interesting character arc than HAL, and better armament to boot.

When I get my own digital projector and an apartment to fit it in, I'll be sure and netflix 2001 again and let you know how I feel afterwards. I am not optimistic.

(I also think Henry is right, AGAIN. Enrique didn't we used to get in fites on film threads? what went wrong?)

TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah we did: long story.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Whatever bub, I ain't seen WG since 1983. (and when did you last see On Her Majesty's Secret Service? great D. Rigg and stuntwork, the rest godawful boring)

So is the ending of 2001 Kubrick's most optimistic? Is it, as John Simon dissed, "a shaggy God story"? Or is tracking human evolution as a series of steps engineered from Beyond the Infinite depressingly deterministic? And why do aliens like 18th-century French decor?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

hum. i think it is his most optimistic.

but i'm unsure abt evolution as a theory.

ok lol

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

the 18c decor is meant to represent 'rationalism'. and he spills the glass ----> rationalism = impossible ideal?

i was a riot at college

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

I read something linking the broken glass to Jewish weddings.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

it works on so many levels, man.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining.

That's a shame! I always find it interesting to see where different people draw the line beyond which everything becomes "pretentious" or "masturbatory".

sleep (sleep), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Esp from fans of Kill Bill. (The Shining is pompous tho -- but less so than Stephen King would've liked.)

Apparently the 2001 makeup people weren't considered for an Oscar because the pajama-clad Academy types didn't realize the apes were actors.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I guess it's pompous, but I think I have a high tolerance for that stuff, relatively speaking. But it's not like it's so busy going up its own ass that it's inaccessible, right?

sleep (sleep), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

didn't planet of the apes win an oscar for makeup that same year?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i always wondered about the ape-makeup thing, and why it was so understated in film circles. i mean, make-up skills/latex compounds (not to mention CGI/post effects) have come a long way since then, but i still think the 2001 apes are the perfect man/ape hybrid. waaaay better than planet of the apes sytle.

although he did use a real chimp baby...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Tried to read the book in the 5th grade and couldn't. But the Jack Kirby comic book was classic.

http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/images/11111111%20Jack%20Kirby.jpg

I loved the movie so early and unconditionally that reading Pauline Kael's pan as an adolescent was an event. But she was so wrong...

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Yes on Apes (it was a special award as there was as yet no makeup category). Of course the POTA actors had to talk so it was adifferent challenge, but still...

The 2001 apes were in Shepperton Studios -- the landscapes were rear projections.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

did you see 2001 in a theater ever?

I have. It looks great, but it doesn't change everything else I find wrong with it. This is my issue with Kubrick almost en totale. Everything looks great (except most of the Shining but I'm not sure who to blame really for why the Shining is so awful, mainly I blame Nicholson), but that's...it...which there is something to be said for that but there is also something to be said for not making films like Eyes Wide Shut.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I watched it in Cinerama too, at the Bradford Film and tv museum. It was amazing to look at, but that doesn't change the flaws in the film itself.

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I think my best comparison/contrast for this movie would probably be with something like L'Avventura or Red Desert, which are extraordinarily visually focused and very carefully composed, but I just feel have "more" to them than 2001 does.

And yeah the space baby thing was crap, I gotta be honest, that is totally awkward cinema IMO.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

this is my favorite movie ever, pretty much.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

The shot where you're looking through astronaut Dave's eyes to old Dave, and Dave walks towards you and suddenly you realise young Dave is gone and OMG perspective shift from first-person-young-Dave to third-person-old-Dave! Literally the most breathtaking movie moment ever. For me.

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

A friend hates Kubrick, except for this one.

I can understand the Starbaby not working for you, but "awkward"? If the finale shows the post-human evolutionary leap, how else would you show it? All the other options seem too mundane.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I agree that it's a difficult thing to show, how else would you do it, what is mundane versus what is exciting ("exciting" etc), BUT mainly it just makes me giggle and then makes me not want to watch it at all because I feel I should be taking it more seriously than I am, but I am NOT. I think it's the music, more so than the actual image, that does it in for me.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I much prefer TOTO's guitars as Muad'Dib rides the worm into the fortress walls. Atomics, as they say. I want to see THAT in the theater. Hell with this Kubrick nonsense.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Earth Astronauts got nothin on the Fremen of Arrakis y'all

TOMBOT, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

If you're going to be an astronaut, you have to sacrifice

Dan S, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:19 (ten months ago)

it looks like three kinds of refried beans with a side of butter

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:31 (ten months ago)

it's rouge and the thing at the top is a brush, he's about to put on face.

five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:58 (ten months ago)

Went to SEE IT BIG in 70mm at MoMI yesterday

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:12 (ten months ago)

And?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 August 2025 13:13 (ten months ago)

Feel like I finally got it

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:16 (ten months ago)

Also got a MUBI tote bag premium.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:16 (ten months ago)

Hot take: HAL has all the best lines.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:17 (ten months ago)

making it bigger to make it less boring, challenge level: impossible

mark s, Monday, 11 August 2025 13:19 (ten months ago)

Never change.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:31 (ten months ago)

me very old in the hideous hotel room at the end of the universe: 👎🏽

mark s, Monday, 11 August 2025 13:32 (ten months ago)

The louder they come
The bigger they crack

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 13:33 (ten months ago)

Perhaps y'all prefer this version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6fzK97-PgM

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 August 2025 21:54 (ten months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fxroII9GI

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 August 2025 13:32 (ten months ago)

ok that Wes Anderson trailer made me laugh, good job whoever made it

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 17 August 2025 14:41 (ten months ago)

The one for A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is good too.

Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 August 2025 18:18 (ten months ago)


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