Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

oh, just as i'm busy ye start

On loan, iirc- kranjcar, pienaar, corluka, jenas, bassong. Keep first three imo, underutilised but well up to scratch

Not on loan, and deadwood/loseable- bentley, gomes, khumalo, dos santos.

'first team' to be let go- king, gallas

I believe huddlestone to be a quite exceptional talent, pf, and with parker over 30 i don't see any reason to worr over sandro, huddlestone and livermore as good to very good central options.

Youth to come in- naughton, caulker

nelsen can go, saha i'd keep, adebayor i'd make an offer for but not bank-breaking.

We very much need one of yr mythical '20 goal' strikers, a new first team centre half, and cover at left back and right wing (tho walker could be the latter)

Not a huge summer of activity, depending on who might wish to leave.

Rose remains cover at LB?
Bentley in theory ought to be cover at RW. If he's not playing, then he has to go. In the name of god, go!

rose could be shipped out, tbh, for all that he gets a game at lb it's not even close to a satisfactory solution- and he's probably a fair bit down the pecking order at lw, if bale, kranjcar, modric, pieenar, vdv are all at the club.

two posts after this one and this becomes the longest thread on ilx

ok i want it to be this:

jol out

oh u cunt deems!

right, second time:

After City's first league title in 44 years Nasri told the French television channel TF1: "People at Arsenal tried to make out that I came here for the money. I hope they are watching me now, collecting my Premier League winner's medal. I believe they have not won a trophy for many years now.

"I made the hard choice to come and fight for my place at a big club, and I have proved it correct. I now hope the Arsenal fans can get on with their lives and forget me.

"If all that I was interested in was money, the easiest decision would have been to stay at Arsenal, picking up my money every week and walking into the team. There are many people doing this right now at Arsenal."

The higher you build your barriers
The taller I become
The farther you take my rights away
The faster I will run
You can deny me
You can decide to turn your face away
No matter, cos there's....

Something inside so strong
I know that I can make it
Tho' you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone
Oh no, something inside so strong
Oh oh oh oh oh something inside so strong

The more you refuse to hear my voice
The louder I will sing
You hide behind walls of Jericho
Your lies will come tumbling
Deny my place in time
You squander wealth that's mine
My light will shine so brightly
It will blind you
Cos there's something inside so strong

lol YES!

two posts after this one and this becomes the longest thread on ilx

85% of it about Tottenham Hotspur. Crazy people.

perfect

deems itt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujijaZHneJQ

can't view youtubes, but i'd like that to be tootling jody morris

something I've said before no doubt:

I know Europa League is very long and arduous - but I really think the THFC policy of playing reserves and being happy to be knocked out has not been good. OK you need to rotate, etc. But this is the 2nd biggest trophy in Europe - it's a huge thing to win (look at how eg Benitez and AVB profiles rose as result) - if THFC are as good as they make out, they should be going out to win the Europa League, seriously, whenever they're in it.

I say this cos it's quite likely we'll be it again next season.

English clubs not taking Europa League seriously is sad but it has been a great competition this year without the Big English clubs 'avin' a go.

if likely mean >50% chance, then what is quite likely?

Agree with every word, plus it's brilliant.

i agree, tho i will say that i think the policy of blooding youngsters and giving squad players a run is useful, if used correctly.

the lineup for next year's EL looks more like a classic uefa cup one

the group stage is still horribly distended though

yes, good way to use young players etc - and no reason they should be weak?
yes, it's too long, this is the problem (how did Fulham manage it?)
I think there's just an attitude problem - that it doesn't matter or is good to get knocked out - which is all wrong. I mean the World Cup involves a lot of games but you still try to win them all.

I feel that CFC are likely to win CL. Quite likely - 70%?

pessimistic, pf, i don't make them favourites.

The youngsters and reserves are good enough to get you through the first few stages, those that do well should be in contention for less testing league games and further cup matches, fine- but travelling with a youth team to the quarters or needing a win to say i it (as redknapp has done) always puzzles me- fans think highly of the trophy ime, and a cup run is never bad news, and especially not with a squad our size with players needing experience and others crying out for games.

Agree!! (except re CL final)

Disappointed Dunski, love it

if spurs won the uefa no one, including spurs, would give a monkeys

it only becomes psuedo-well regarded if you happen to topple some already-fallen glamour giant considered above your station, spurs already think of themselves as atleti/bilbao/schalke level

for clubs with a nice big stadium it's a nice little earner on the side i spose but still chickenfeed in prem/cl terms

it would still be the pinnacle of harry redknapp's career

he will still think it's nothing compared to getting raked at the bernebeu

dont want to sound all david bernstein here but redknapp has ideas above his station

uefa > domestic cups

liar, you know you would take the fa cup over the uefa

Well, I wouldn't, but I'm not a Spurs fan.
Cl>>>>>EL>>>>FA>>>>CC as far as cups go

CL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EL>>>>>>>>>FA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CC

Well yes but my fingers were tired

maybe it should be that way but p sure the clubs themselves put the el behind the cc in terms of their priorities.

this is strictly about spurs and where they're at psychologically, i'm not saying every club would think the same

liverpool would treasure the uefa higher for instance

fa cup nowhere near a european trophy, sorry brits

think this attitude has lingered from the 07-09 period when english clubs were packing the cl semis every year and the europa league was seen as completely worthless

always worth remembering that italian clubs have won more european cups that english clubs have in the 21st century

english teams have won 1 out of 5 of the last finals that were an english club vs a foreign club

xp be your cosmopolitan idealism as it may i guarantee if we polled the general spurs fanbase i would be proved correct

In that case, do say Bilbao value EL>>>>CdR?

totally

maybe right now the CdR is a bit more prestigious because madrid and barcelona are so strong that any other club winning it would be a significant achievement

even so, europa league would be worth more, i doubt the bilbao players will be crying nearly as hard if barca schtup them 3-0 like atletico did

yeah totally

fa cup is probs unique among domestic cups in this regard where even now still there is residual resonance to winning it even as a bauble for big clubs with bigger fish to fry

i would guess the cdr is only a big deal for barca/real if they happen to have to overcome the other to win it

i must stress again i was talking specifically about spurs and their partic sitch, imo cup ranking resists generalisation generally

like for fulham winning the uefa would have had 5000 times the value of an fa cup

I would much rather win the FA Cup than the Europa League. The old UEFA Cup may have been a different kettle of fish, I remember when getting into that was still seen as an achievement.

s'always seemed to me that the el is a massive hassle for all clubs until they accidentally find themselves in the latter stages of it.

maybe if it wasn't on a thursday and interfering with weekend game preparation?

how is playing thursday- sunday different than wednesday- saturday?

isn't it in the premier league clubs' interest to take the europa seriously though in order to keep those uefa coefficients healthy? if the english clubs bomb out of europe early won't that affect the number of champions league and europa league places we get in the future?

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I'm not sure playing on thursday is different, but in my head it makes the games feel a bit tacked on, coming at the end of the week when i've pretty much had my fill and am looking to the league again.

anyway, do all el teams play their weekend fixture on sunday? i've never paid that much attention.

there's the travel to consider for a start

oh yeah italian clubs are starting to think about coefficients now right? don't think the greater good matters until a club's personally deprived, society innit