Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I convince myself I would have had diarrhea anyway.

To me nothing was worse than the episode w/Bai Ling.

re: "It's about the journey, not the destination"
it's more "it's about process"
and if your writing process consists entirely of vamping, the lost finale will be the result
deadwood would have ended the same way if it had a few more seasons.

2 years since the lost finale, still mad.

remember when sun left her young daughter behind in order to find jin, and then she found jin and said "we have a young daughter," and then sun was about die and she said "leave me behind" and jin was like "no it's cool i'll die with you" and neither of them mentioned the fact that they had a young daughter?

i know technically that's not the finale but it's the same first-draft nonsensical bullshit that became lost's hallmark in s6

haha oh god yeah

Wow. I was aggrieved by so many other holes and dangling threads that I don't know if I ever even thought about that one before.

wasn't it a purga-daughter?

nope, real daughter.

the flash-forwards, flashbacks, and everything on the island were "real", only the alternate universe "what if the plane never crashed?" in LA shit was purgatory.

that said, everyone OTM.

i drive past the church where the last scene was shot almost daily and it pains me just to look at it.

in purgatory the island is underwater for no reason whatsoever but there is still a dharma shark roaming around.

jj abrams...remember how you spent half of the last season in a useless temple full of useless characters that contributed nothing to the plot or emotional resonance? die in all the fires that ever were.

― a dry, airless meringue (reddening), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i had totally forgotten this part of the show. man the writers were really just fucking around. "what if we make a guy look like john lennon hur hur high fives"

that was just deadwood and lost converging, though.

i drive past the church where the last scene was shot almost daily and it pains me just to look at it.

I think this would annoy me to the extent that I would find an alternate route.

I understand that there might be business reasons for not doing so at this juncture, but I would really love for some of the writers to come forth after the DVD sales have bottomed out and explain/apologize for what went down with this show. Actually, that might make for a really interesting book.

Only planned for 3 seasons, then 5 seasons, then it got chopped to shit imo

I think this would annoy me to the extent that I would find an alternate route.

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:57 AM (5 minutes ago)

to further my frustration, my best friend was dating a camera man on the show during the final season and i have a memory burned in to my brain of her going to visit him on his 10:30 PM lunch break the night they shot that scene, basically making it possible for me to ever forget that that horrible episode was ever brought in to this world.

should it have ended like the cheers finale instead?

There was an alternate timeline where the 6th season was the most amazing thing ever; sadly we are not in it

i've been re-watching the entire series! just saw charlie drown in the looking glass. re-watching was my gf's idea because she's not a vile cesspool of spite. to my surprise i still find it entertaining, albeit in a different way now--how did those assholes do it?

I also get mad about s6 from time to time. love this revive, everybody otm. they could have tied up a lot of the plot elements with just a little effort, but we kept waiting all season for that to happen and then... nothing.

the second to last episode is actually the only one i never saw-- i was traveling that week and missed it, then didnt want to have to wait to see the finale after my friends (and i knew it was all going to shit by that point anyway) so i just said fuck it and watched the finale

was it actually that bad??

What do you think of Roman matrons?

i just now remembered the crumpled up water bottles

http://i50.tinypic.com/2uzbczp.jpg

remember how the writers petulantly refused to have anyone say the name of titus welliver's character in that episode, just because the internet had gone ahead and assumed it was esau? an hour of monotone references to "my brother"/"your brother."

also remember when alan dale hired a lady who looked like tina fey to go to the island and then she served no purpose and died

remember how Whitmore was like this huge villain for years and years and then in the end he was unceremoniously shot just to get the character to go away b/c they had no idea what they were doing, really

Can we start some sort of class action suit against Darlton? Like to get them to do our laundry and grocery shopping and whatnot until they've worked off all of the hours they stole from us?

^ there were 121 episodes of lost. pretty sure I'm not the only one who has seen all of the (pre-season 6) episodes multiple times.

Guess they better get those mowers mowin', then.

I think the statute of limitations is up for bad TV.

Classical-Fusion Driveshaft Concert

I wish I could you that excuse when if make a major mistake at work "no one has told me how it should've been done", no one could keep a job with that line. Yet this guy is still employable.

Not only that, but about to make a prequel for Alien. :/

I still feel burned whenever I think of this show. I still rewatch the x-files, but I can't imagine rewatching Lost.

The X-Files finale was pretty bad too but at least it felt like it was part of the show. The end of Lost felt really tacked on and bullshity to me.

pretty sure I'm not the only one who has seen all of the (pre-season 6) episodes multiple times.

I don't think I've ever rewatched a single episode. If it really had been character-driven in the way that, say, ER was, I would have done. But for me LOST was always about finding out what happened next and finding out the answers to the questions that had been posed in previous episodes. There was almost nothing else. The dialogue was always shit (with some exceptions, like Sawyer's lines, or some of Desmond's stuff, or whatever), I never liked Jack, I always HATED Kate. So when what happened next turned out to be utter, utter bullshit in the worst possible way, I was genuinely angry for about a week. Now I just don't care. At least with Game of Thrones this stuff has already been plotted out somewhere else, so I feel relatively safe getting excited about it. But no episodic television programme will ever fool me like that again.

Let's not forget, too, that some of us in the British Isles were excited enough about the finale to get up at three in the morning so that we could watch it at the same time as it was broadcast in the US. What morons we were.

I sometimes wonder if there was any possible way that it could have ended well. I'm personally comfortable with extensive ambiguity in the film and TV that I like; I mean, I love the Sopranos finale and was baffled when people were angry. But they couldn't realistically have been ambiguous with the Lost ending - they would have been crucified. I don't think there is any possible way they could have ever been able to wrap it all up and make anyone happy.

It's really down to how much the showrunners stoked the notion that it was all coming down to a single, major reveal that would explain everything. If they had been a lot more "this isn't Shyamalan - we're playing around with a bunch of themes" or something, maybe people wouldn't have been so pissed?

I don't know, I just can't believe there was actually a time when I was like "yeah, they've got this. It's all going to make total sense and I will like it."!

Some years ago two friends of mine started going out in secret, and I asked them if they were together. They said "no". Then, that they were actually together, they said "and you had no idea!" No, what happened was I asked you a direct question and you lied and I took you at your word. This is the same thing.

That should say "then, when they revealed that they were actually together", obviously.

did anyone mention the amazing death of the smoke monster? AAAH I FELL OFF A CLIFF I'M DEAD

it was the unplugging of the RPG save point what killed that beast iirc

As I recall, as the latter half of the season unraveled, it became increasingly clear that the finale was going to be a big raspberry. By the time it actually hit, there really wasn't any way it could be halfway decent. Even then, I'll grant, it was bad.

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Gah, I had blocked that from my memory until now.

I don't think there is any possible way they could have ever been able to wrap it all up and make anyone happy.

Probably not. But there's lots they could have done to avoid pissing a huge swath of fans off to the point that they're still bitching two years later. Like not constantly assuring us that they knew exactly where things were going and that it would alllllll make sense in the end when the whole show was actually a secret attempt to break a Guiness world record for telling the longest shaggy dog story ever.

I sometimes wonder if there was any possible way that it could have ended well. I'm personally comfortable with extensive ambiguity in the film and TV that I like; I mean, I love the Sopranos finale and was baffled when people were angry. But they couldn't realistically have been ambiguous with the Lost ending - they would have been crucified. I don't think there is any possible way they could have ever been able to wrap it all up and make anyone happy.

It's really down to how much the showrunners stoked the notion that it was all coming down to a single, major reveal that would explain everything. If they had been a lot more "this isn't Shyamalan - we're playing around with a bunch of themes" or something, maybe people wouldn't have been so pissed?

I don't know, I just can't believe there was actually a time when I was like "yeah, they've got this. It's all going to make total sense and I will like it."!

― Walter Galt, Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah this is otm. i think the show was actually at its best when they kept a lot of plates spinning and you got to wonder about time travel and all this other weird stuff -- the more they introduced, the less they were ever going to 'resolve' anything with any one episode or even one final season arc. maybe they should've just answered some major questions about the island while introducing more as a way of saying "are you still with us?" and if people were, then it could've been a really long-running thing like Dr. Who or Star Trek where you can do spinoffs with the characters or storylines people respond to the most.

like this could've been a franchise people would actually care about and have huge conventions for 10 years after it went off the air, but they almost wanted to just milk it as much as possible while it was going and then burn all those bridges to a lucrative long tail and get away.

should have been surprise-cancelled after season four, then people would still be speculating about how great it could have been