Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

The problem is that Terry will likely prove a poisonous presence in the dressing room in general, it's not just Ferdinand, it's potentially an issue with all black players who don't play for Chelsea.

Not taking Richards...

Well that's one of those tricky Terry issues avoided - along with Rio conflicts avoided by dropping him.

Let's hope "diffusing race row" doesn't end up = "dropping black players to appease a cunt"

hardly linked, tbph

yes they are, I just did it right there

hardly

I wouldn't advocate taking Holt either but he's been a better lumpen big man than Carroll this season.

On the assumption that Woy won't even consider deviating from 4-4-2 would probably start with Welbeck and Defoe rather than bothering with lumpen big men at all.

welbeck's reasonable in the air

keep forgetting rooney's suspended for the first two and last two of yr games

Welbeck's movement and awareness and approach play are much better than most of this lot as well, which makes me wonder how he'd click with Defoe.

that's an overlapping set xp

might rather sturridge ahead of defoe now personally

am rly tempted to draft wite vs non-wite english national teams

Carroll played so badly for the majority of the season that Liverpool's then director of football, Damien Comolli, was trying to move him out in January but by early evening the former Newcastle United striker, on his way to a Westlife concert, had not been among the list of thanks-but-no-thanks calls Hodgson was making.

This seems sufficent justification not to pick him.

Big clubbism will probably put Studge in there but hasn't he been pony for most of the second half of the season?

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These are not terrible front three/two options, ppl

There's an early photo of him & Kenny at a Boyzone gig. I'd assumed it was Dalglish's choice tbh, but if he's still incarcerated in Boston I'm not so sure.

Sturridge has been terrible I believe, he was certainly hopeless when I saw him at Arsenal.

still sulking over being played out wide?

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Yeah but will they get the best out of John Terry?

I would *love* to see those with Terry and Gerrard in a 1-1-8

i mean for non-wite eng xi obv

wite eng front pairing has already been discussed, ireland's is better tbph

A midfield 4 that comprises 3 of Lampard, Gerrard, Milner would be almost as slow as Inter Milan's. I mean I can remember Gerrard being fast back when he was fit I guess but not recently. Also expecting him to play a game every 4 days (which seems to be the thinking behind Rio's omission) is the height of wishful thinking imo

just realized that the alleged racial tension / aggro divided camp thing is the closest England have come to being like Holland

I like Stevie G and am still happy for him to be captain. But surely not with Lampard.

Lampard has been better than Gerrard this season

I really hope Paul Scholes' wife or kids aren't on the phone or the internet, he might miss his call from Roy. I'm assuming he only has a landline.

should recall shearer also, and gazza?

gerrard used to be slated here even when he was good, but he hasn't had a good season since 08/09 at this point, i can't comprehend how he is near the national team, he is a shadow of the player he once was.

Should we take this onto the Hodgson thread once the squad is announced?

have we beaten the all time longest ILE thread yet?

still about 250 to go

249 now

no, wait

Is there any way Roy could select an entirely black 22-man squad, plus John Terry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJzcUvS_NU

would need Rio to take a turn in goal

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/2333main_MM_Image_Feature_19_rs4.jpg

gerrard acknowledged as a good but wasteful/tactically disruptive player for england ever since i've ilx'd

In the same manner that lampard is acknowledged as effective but anonymous/shite and tactically disruptive for england

That they are fine individual players when a midfield of excellent players is based solely around them is not in question.

That either should be welcomed with joy into an england team is entirely another.

england have very few players that don't have major drawbacks, essentially, even the guys that are world-class at what they do at their clubs.

I laughed at Sacchi's quote on Gerrard about how 'some players have all the skills in world, but cannot play football'

That they are fine individual players when a midfield of excellent players is based solely around them is not in question.

That either should be welcomed with joy into an england team is entirely another.

gerrard isn't a fine player anymore.

saachi's just picking on him cos he h8s liverpool, probly lurks tbh

what's the current longest

ilx

thread

?

xps, studge was played out of position (and, admirably in a striker imo, never backed down from calling bullshit on it) first half of the season and di matteo hasnt given him a look in since the fall of avb. international class predator at bolton the year before though, and er... idk sometimes you can just tell without the great body of evidence who's quality

doubt he'll ever get what he wants at chelsea, spurs could and probably will do a lot worse than getting him altho maybe a summer too soon

I would probably play Parker-Carrick-Lampard with loads of pace up the flanks and a lone frontman but that still doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

haven't seen enough of him lately tbh ronan. Isn't he worth a squad place anymore?

For an england manager to still possibly be juggling the scholes/gerrard/lampard cm problem after a decade is a srs fuckin indictment of the FA having paid any cunt a penny to actually manage in that time.

fuck a carrick

last season's thread, Merdey - not sure this is necessary or dignified tbh

agree on sturridge fwiw, his hanging round chelsea should be heavily dependent on a few being shipped out this summer.

Double swoop for himself and lukaku wouldn't dismay me, and i'd also like a chocice while i'm dreaming

The Ox in apparently.