haha occupy ksh
K St is the home (in the sense that Wall St is the "home") of the lobbying firms and think tanks. When DC set up its encampment we were at McPherson Square, at the intersection of 15th and K, a block from the White House. It's effectively "the other end of the pipeline of bullshit."
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
what is ksh
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
haha ksh
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNlZ32wTWiU
― s.clover, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
ksh is ksh
its a koan
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
i know what kush is. never heard anyone call it ksh. i feel like i'm missing something here, maybe i'm just overthinking it.
you know in sd the occupy thing got completely hijacked by the mmj people which i understand is a valid concern but it definitely didn't do the movement (either one) any favors. in fact i'll go so far as to say that a hell of a lot of mmj activists in san diego do more harm than good to their cause.
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
think maybe i mentioned this upthread though
looks like i even used "hijacked" up there too
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
(ksh is ilm dude aka kshighway aka [MYSTERY POSTER]
^ now the fun begins
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
i had never seen "mmj" before, that is a fun little abbreviation. is it common on the west coast?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link
thank you biggest hoos
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
yes its very common
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
on the internet, it's not something you say irl
― the late great, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
my morning jacket activists
― max, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:52 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
holy fuck this theme music
its like an snl bit with ana gasteyer or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9R_DknSSYY&feature=relmfu
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
excited for all my friends going to NATO. i'd almost found a way--"free" bus--but i would've been otherwise relying on the kindness of strangers for food etc--payday, unfortunately, is ~next~ friday.
feels like its gonna be something i'll wish i was at later
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
kindness of CHILXors brah, IPAs all around.
― Odd Spice (Eazy), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
I'd buy a hoos dinner.
― Steve Youngblood (dan m), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
that theme music is sort of amazing in like a sub-cardew sort of way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnauDrzdOiQ
― s.clover, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
The thoughts are v much appreciated guys, I know I coulda made it work if I'd planned right.
@occupykst successfully now owned and operated by me and 3 badass women w/serious online organizing skills, humbled to share the userID with them.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
recent SFBG article on Occupy SFer recently arrested during that building eviction for throwing a rock at a cop is one of the saddest things I've read in years - basically crazy homeless vet w/drug problems and poor (if any) grasp of politics. can't find it online for some reason.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
Been doing a lot of thinking lately about whether ''mere" (politically incoherent) anger is useless or not, whether one needs to have a technocrat's understanding of policy to validate the frustrated throwing of a rock. there's a strain of thought I've been encountering lately that suggests that the above is an "elitist" way of thinking, that requiring elaborate theoretical analyses from the angry for their rage is classist, that "~any riot is a good riot~." I don't buy it, but I can't put my finger on why.
This isn't directed at u btw shakey you just touched on stuff thats bouncing in my head.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
no worries that had occurred to me too but this guy's story is just so disheartening - really his arrest is just one in a long litany of run-ins with the law, multiple stints in prison, etc. The guy is schizophrenic (hears voices, the whole bit), had a meth problem, blacks out and gets violent, in and out of institutions his whole life. That he got wrapped up in Occupy is just some marriage of convenience, and it's a bummer. It's not just his politics that are incoherent, it's his anger, his worldview, his whole life.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
any social justice movement's goals in regards to him would be to get him help and take care of him, not to make a martyr out of him by putting him on the front lines of a protest where he will come into conflict with cops
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
I should really find that story arghh...
there need to be at least some people who can do elaborate theoretical analysis and attempt to explain their conclusions to people less interested in or equipped for that kind of thing; these i guess are what you call leaders (the l-word!) and occupy has plenty of them whether it admits it or not; but as far as people being "incoherently" angry, i mean, fucking good that people are angry; i hope they get angrier; and as long as they can memorize a few keywords (collateralized debt obligation!) and get it basically straight who's screwing them (which a lot of people already know anyway) i don't really mind if they haven't read all three volumes of capital. i mean i'm one of them. (if anything this seems like an elitist way of thinking, since it shruggingly accepts that not everyone is gonna be a scholar. but scholars can't revolt by themselves.)
obv different thing from this case which is just :( yeah.
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
(realize that "read all three volumes of capital" is an ad absurdum cartoon of the level of political engagement you're talking about, since who does that, but still.)
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
as far as people being "incoherently" angry, i mean, fucking good that people are angry; i hope they get angrier;
I was referring to the fact that this guy was incoherently angry to begin with - he blacks out and assaults people. He's a crazed transient. His engagement with Occupy's rhetoric goes no farther than obsessing over the oath he took to "defend the Constitution" as a member of the US Army, and the fact that the Patriot Act is bad. Also people are taking away his rights. It's like sub-Tea Party stuff.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
no i know i was talking about hoos' general concerns
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
not being like "schizoprenia is a useful tool in the toolbox!"
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
Guilty lolz xp
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
hoos i will very much buy you dinner anytime you find me in nyc.
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
part of the reason i'm so excited about chicago (which, if i can get a ride by tomorrow, i may still be doing?) is that it's finally creating an opportunity to more explicitly make the connections between low intensity class warfare of attrition at home and the war machine abroad
http://truth-out.org/news/item/9205-occupy-chicago-takes-on-the-war-at-home
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/05/hacked.html
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
y'all got me off work on monday, thx B-)
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
np
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
yo if i wind up going tomorrow like i'm tryin to trust all of the internet will hear about it
i'm a nerd but this gave me goosebumps
https://twitter.com/#!/kgosztola/status/203273043802464256
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
Police Preemptively Raid Apartment & Arrest Activists Ahead of NATO Summit
…Police broke down a door to access a 6-unit apartment building near 32nd & Morgan Streets without a search warrant. Police entered an apartment with guns drawn and tackled one of the tenants to the floor in his kitchen. Two tenants were handcuffed for more than 2 hours in their living room while police searched their apartment and a neighboring unit, repeatedly calling one of the tenants a “Commie faggot.”
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/05/17/police-preemptively-raid-apartment-arrest-activists-ahead-of-nato-summit/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
― Chris S, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
(if anything this seems like an elitist way of thinking, since it shruggingly accepts that not everyone is gonna be a scholar. but scholars can't revolt by themselves.)
I think this is correct.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
this is kind of interesting
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/occupydclive/2012/05/18/voices-of-the-99-like-it-is-w-robert-stephens
my boy is hosting his radio show trying to talk about big picture organizing and strategy stuff, and this dude from oakland calls in and talks about the cops for 10 minutes.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.wepay.com/donations/the-clown-bloq
love this v much
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
found the article
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
this is kind of interestinghttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/occupydclive/2012/05/18/voices-of-the-99-like-it-is-w-robert-stephensmy boy is hosting his radio show trying to talk about big picture organizing and strategy stuff, and this dude from oakland calls in and talks about the cops for 10 minutes. --BIG HOOS aka the steendriver
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/occupydclive/2012/05/18/voices-of-the-99-like-it-is-w-robert-stephens
my boy is hosting his radio show trying to talk about big picture organizing and strategy stuff, and this dude from oakland calls in and talks about the cops for 10 minutes. --BIG HOOS aka the steendriver
Btw wanna be clear that this is "interesting" just in the sense that it reveals how focuses in certain areas tend to perpetuate themselves.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
rally in the loop:
https://twitter.com/#!/OccupyChicago/status/203556607337050113
― Steve Youngblood (dan m), Friday, 18 May 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
didn't get the ride i was hoping for, but i'll be goin ham on my full-situational-awareness twitter game all weekend so plz feel free to follow along @hoosteen
http://i.imgur.com/sk57C.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
also talking nato all night tonight on the radio show w/interview w/folks on the ground
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
vof99.org at 9 eastern time