Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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Speaking after receiving the award as France's Footballer of the Year on Monday night, Hazard said: 'To Manchester, I can reveal that a decision will be made on my destiny within days.'

Sunday was the first time I've watched him at length. He's really good, in a Nasri way.

hmmn nasri's beautifully sotto voce trolling reads quite differently to hazard's potboiler grandiloquence

http://www.arsenalsite.com/media/galeria/102/1/0/4/1/o_arsenal_fc_samir_nasri-3191401.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/15/rio-ferdinand-roy-hodgson-england-euro-2012

D Taylor's reports on Manc players: horribly psychologized, emotional - 'RF is understood to be dismayed' etc

meanwhile, KD 'still in limbo'

Ought Rio to be there on merit? I haven't seen him much this year. If he should, I'm very dubious about picking Terry instead.

impression per lord ferg is it's not about merit but whether he can manage the schedule. fa didnt need a second chance to defuse the racewar either

how much has rio even played?

Rio had a nightmare start to this season but has been pretty good since, and he's usually played better than Terry for England but, yeah, massively injury prone by this stage.

The problem is that Terry will likely prove a poisonous presence in the dressing room in general, it's not just Ferdinand, it's potentially an issue with all black players who don't play for Chelsea.

Not taking Richards with Walker injured seems an odd move as well.

oh sorry klats you said 'ought'

erm idk i don't think so. terry does need a sweeper alongside ideally but that's probably asking too much of rio now? terry/cahill are a pretty maladroit unit at anything other than classic brit trenchcraft though so

how much has rio even played?

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:27 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

30 games or something? most since 2007 i think

Exactly. I doubt it's just the black players, I can't imagine him as anything other than insufferable to be around, except as a cartoon John Bull (is that enough? Maybe it is)

What's wrong with Richards, exactly? It doesn't take long for managers to decide they don't fancy him.

'Exactly' was xp to Matt. Rio's been ever-present this year apparently. I wouldn't know, Utd were always just the team playing in the game I wasn't watching.

richards naive but potentially good, johnson accomplished but likely shit, you decide

IDGI, Richards at this point is better going forward and getting back than Johnson.

not quite as varied as johnson going fwd imo

Who's englands right wing? No joeks pls.

physically maybe yeah but johnson has far better technique offensively

personally i would go for richards usually but next to terry and cahill it seems vaguely disastrous

The hints about Gary Neville urging a clean break and going entirely with young players is encouraging. A raw but pretty talented side playing with the pressure off could be a lot of fun.

That Roy's apparently already promised the captaincy to Gerrard is less so, though I guess he could get with that state of mind.

think it'll be milner tbh

Given the geriatric Fulham team Roy assembled I suspect G-Nev is destined to be disappointed.

RW = two from Lennon-Walcott-Milner-anyone else? Left wing doesn't feel nailed on for anyone either, except maybe Ashley Young. Downing could still make it. Theo missing out yet again would be hilarious.

Apparently Carroll has got the nod over Crouch which is just fucking stupid and I don't even like Crouch that much.

---------- hart
johnson terry cahill cole
milner gerrard parker young
----- carroll welbz

i expect

i am both a crouch and carroll sentimentalist but wouldve done the same as woy

Mmmmm lumpen.

aoc, a johnson?

Carroll far, far better than crouch.

any chance for any swansea/norwich etc surprises?

Carroll might just be starting to turn things around, and at least he's actually useful as the big tall good with his head disruptive lump, unlike Kraaxtchi

Carroll is playing well, guys. It looks like a sudden turnaround but he's been improving all year. England are not going to be an intricate, fancy side this summer, stick him in there and tell him to go for everything and it'll be fine.

hope and trust not

advocating grant holt is the height of inanity

carroll can stand there and do nothing and still be more effective than crouch, whose only useful characteristic that i can recall is his ability to stand behind the goal and have air shot up his arse whenever there's a goal

besides, carroll/rooney the 100m strikeforce is too lol of a concept not to cherish

crouchie's diving game is light years ahead of big andy's in fairness

racism/cuntness aside is there really no better defender to play than Terry?

crouch, tbfttl, is probably the most-fouled, least-rewarded footballer in england.

cuntiness aside, i'd say not

think Lescott may've shot himself in the foot a wee bit in that last match.

guardian commenter did a bit on what each club was best at in the league statistically:

Manchester City – most goals (93), most shots (666), most shots on target (399), most shots and shots on target in a single game (35, 24 – v QPR), fewest goals conceded (20), most home points (55), most home wins (18) and at that point I stopped writing down any more things. There were lots of others.

Manchester United – most first half goals (40), most away points (42), most away wins (13) and again, stopped writing them down, and again, there were lots of others.

Arsenal – highest 2011 away accuracy (64.18%), most goals in February (14)

Tottenham Hotspur – highest number of corners in a game (19 v Villa – joint with MCFC v QPR and NUFC v SAFC), most points in September (9) November (9) January (10) and May (7), most goals in November (8) January (9) and May (7)

Newcastle United – highest 2012 away efficiency (28.89%)

Chelsea – most shots in 2011 (314)

Everton – highest 2012 home save rate (92.31%) and efficiency (27.54%), most goals in April (14)

Liverpool – most corners (308)

Fulham – the only team with no red cards this season. Good lads, they are. Also, recovered two half time deficits to win, so highest turnarounds.

West Bromwich Albion – most away goals in February (6)

Swansea – fewest fouls (309) and yellow cards (40), highest home save rate (87%)

Norwich – most away goals in January (4 – joint with Liverpool and Sunderland)

Sunderland – highest 2012 efficiency (24.47%) and save rate (86.36%)

Stoke – highest home efficiency (26.6%)

Wigan Athletic – most points in April (9)

Aston Villa – I swear I am not doing this on purpose but I genuinely can’t find a thing...

Queens Park Rangers – highest percentage of points at home (70.27% - rising to 95% in 2012)

Bolton – highest home accuracy (64.96%) and 2011 accuracy (67.45%)

Blackburn Rovers – highest 2011 away efficiency (31.37%) and conversion rate (18.6%)

Wolverhampton Wanderers – highest percentage of points away in 2012 (87.5%)

Lescott's leap into the net on Mackie's goal was a joy to behold

The problem is that Terry will likely prove a poisonous presence in the dressing room in general, it's not just Ferdinand, it's potentially an issue with all black players who don't play for Chelsea.

Not taking Richards...

Well that's one of those tricky Terry issues avoided - along with Rio conflicts avoided by dropping him.

Let's hope "diffusing race row" doesn't end up = "dropping black players to appease a cunt"

hardly linked, tbph

yes they are, I just did it right there

hardly

I wouldn't advocate taking Holt either but he's been a better lumpen big man than Carroll this season.

On the assumption that Woy won't even consider deviating from 4-4-2 would probably start with Welbeck and Defoe rather than bothering with lumpen big men at all.

welbeck's reasonable in the air

keep forgetting rooney's suspended for the first two and last two of yr games

Welbeck's movement and awareness and approach play are much better than most of this lot as well, which makes me wonder how he'd click with Defoe.

that's an overlapping set xp

might rather sturridge ahead of defoe now personally

am rly tempted to draft wite vs non-wite english national teams