MoveOn did come of age during Dean's primary run, though.
Back when we were all, "Not only are we going to the blogs, Tom harkin, we're going to the web zines and AOL and Drinking Liberally and Netroots Nation and Youtube, and we're going to MySpace and Xanga and Second Life ... And we're going to Flicker and Flickster and Classmates.com and the comments section of The Washinton Times, and then we're going to Meetup.com, to take back the White House! YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 11 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Dean was pre-youtube
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
pre-Flickr too
it's weird when I talk to younger people who act like those things (see also Facebook, google maps, iTunes, etc.) have been around forever and will always be around forever. they will be gone in a few years guys.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
to be replaced by our 24/7 cyberhelmets
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
Inside the beltway media elitists will never stop their simplistic analyses of equivalence and bipartisanship will they:
This helps to explain the phenomenon of Mourdock, who told CNN the morning after his victory that he’s “a huge student of American history” and informed MSNBC that bipartisanship means “Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.”
Actually, if Mourdock looks at history, the federal debt didn’t explode until the hyper-partisan era arrived. The system has broken down precisely because of the absence of collegiality and compromise: Republicans don’t yield on taxes, and Democrats resist serious spending cuts.
...The lawmakers who beat the Nazis, won the Cold War and led the nation to economic dominance didn’t do three-day workweeks in the capital and jet home on weekends; they got to know each other and learned to work with each other.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mourdock-and-judd-vs-washington/2012/05/11/gIQA3EKGIU_story.html?hpid=z2
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 May 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
Rand: "Call me cynical, but I didn’t think his views on marriage could get any gayer”
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
god i hate this doofus
― original bgm, Sunday, 13 May 2012 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://coreyrobin.com/
interesting lefty blog
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
I read his book three weeks ago – not bad.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
right, He's a poli-sci professor and author
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
lovely news on Obama and Franken coming out for mangled child laborers on the farm there.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
They gave in to the Palin and others disinformation campaign that the regulation would bar family farmers from having their own kids help out. Ugh
― curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
So blaming Republicans (instead of both parties), even in nicely phrased language, won't get you on the Sunday talk shows:
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/disappearing-man-followup
re Norm Ornstein
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
here he goes again:
In addition to teeing up another debt limit fight for the lame duck session of Congress later this year, by demanding dollar-for-dollar budget cuts in exchange for new borrowing authority, House Speaker John Boehner also insists that regardless of the election outcome, Republicans will reject higher taxes on wealthy Americans in that fight.
And to build leverage for the GOP position, he announced Tuesday that House Republicans will pass legislation before the election to extend the Bush tax cuts indefinitely.
“What also doesn’t count as ‘cuts and reforms’ are tax increases,” Boehner will say before the annual Pete Peterson Fiscal Summit in Washington, DC, according to prepared remarks. “Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”
from tpm
He has a good chance of getting what he wants
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
of what use is a summer without a debt ceiling fight?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
Can't the Dems just give in to, say, three or four debt ceiling battles in a row in advance, to save us some time? This brinksmanship seems like a formality, right down to the "oh, this will bite the Republicans in the butt" Pollyannas.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, we need to give the inside-the-beltway columnists something to talk about. Combining 3 or 4 cave-ins into one, would prevent that
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
Could point, and that would be bad for the extensive pundit economy and bring down the US with it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
x-post“Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”
If they really believed this they would let it happen to give a boost to Mitt.
― nickn, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
*ACTUAL SIGNIFICANT NEWS*
Fed judge enjoins enforcement of NDAA's indefinite detention provisions
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/federal_court_enjoins_ndaa/singleton/
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
nice
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
that's pretty righteous
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
But meanwhile a Congressional hawkish Dem says
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/carl-levin-wants-preserve-indefinite-detention-option-us-citizens
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
major-league asshole
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
Roberts court will totally strike this down, unfortunately
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
Left unexplained is why mandatory military detention is needed at all. Umar Abdulmutallab, who inspired the mandatory military custody provision after he set himself on fire trying to blow up a plane, would not have been granted bail in a federal court. If the evidence is that strong that someone is a terrorist, there's no need to put them in military custody. Levin fails to offer even a single argument for why military custody would be preferable to civilian custody. Instead, his argument is a moral one: We're at war with these people, so we'll treat them like warriors.
OTM, the lack of logic here is so enraging. courts handle dangerous, murderous people ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it's what they're designed to do.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
it's official, white people in the US no longer the majority
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
worth celebrating
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
we had a good run
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
self-hate is awesome, guys!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
nonwhites, now it's up to you to continue fucking things up
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
just copy our mindset and make it your own
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure if i'm white or not. i'll throw a party but not attend.
― remy bean, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
White man Bill Clinton and other Dems plan to celebrate by cutting entitlements for less-rich people of all colors:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/runaway-train-on-entitlement-cuts.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/democrats-talk-about-cutting-entitlements-republicans-dont-talk-about-raising-taxes/2012/05/16/gIQAfU28TU_blog.html
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
before clinton does anything else he needs to unbutton his goddamn coat when he sits down
― good men like my father, or president truman (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
gabbneb is dead, long live gabbnebism.
but at least he wants to let gays get married ... thereby securing a fat contribution check from David Geffen.
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/republicans-ndaa-detention-terrorist
Paging Greenwald
― curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/world/world-leaders-at-us-meeting-urge-growth-not-austerity.html
In a tense meeting here at this storied presidential retreat, it seemed at times as if it was Ms. Merkel — who herself faces stiff opposition at home to more bailouts of its neighbors by German taxpayers — against the world. Things did not seem to get off to a good start either on Friday night, as Mr. Obama greeted his guests for dinner in a rustic wood cabin.“How’ve you been?” Mr. Obama asked Ms. Merkel.She shrugged and pursed her lips.“Well, you have a few things on your mind,” Mr. Obama said consolingly."We all do", Ms. Merkel replied.When Mr. Obama inquired about the wellbeing of her husband, Joachim Sauer, Ms. Merkel would only shake her head in silence.Mr. Obama then made a conversation mistake by accidentally asking "And how have you been?" again in desperation.But Ms. Merkel did not respond, choosing instead to look at a spot about 20 feet above and to the left of Mr. Obama's head.
“How’ve you been?” Mr. Obama asked Ms. Merkel.
She shrugged and pursed her lips.
“Well, you have a few things on your mind,” Mr. Obama said consolingly.
"We all do", Ms. Merkel replied.
When Mr. Obama inquired about the wellbeing of her husband, Joachim Sauer, Ms. Merkel would only shake her head in silence.
Mr. Obama then made a conversation mistake by accidentally asking "And how have you been?" again in desperation.
But Ms. Merkel did not respond, choosing instead to look at a spot about 20 feet above and to the left of Mr. Obama's head.
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
I've done that so many times, man
― dayo, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
mumblecore diplomacy
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
while hiding out in Maryland away from scary protesters
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
camp david:
http://i47.tinypic.com/2n6oog.jpg
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
probably needs a shoulder rub
― mookieproof, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
I repeat myself so many times in making small talk. it's so embarassing
― dayo, Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
misspelling embarrassing is also embarrassing
Hey, that bit about Obama embarrassing himself has been removed from the latest version.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
MoveOn.gov
― Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
xpost well i may have made some editorial changes to add a little pizazz to the story
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
i would be a great journalist.
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link