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How about more than the work of three normal laptops?

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

Its chief breakthrough is what Apple claims is an eight-hour battery that can be recharged 1,000 times (which would take a thousand monkeys working feverishly at a thousand normal laptops to achieve).

Gorgeous Preppy (G00blar), Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:03 (seventeen years ago)

How about just:

"Monkeys!"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

"Apple lie about battery life."

Francisco Javier Sánchez Brot (onimo), Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

Oh god, company names as plural, grrrrr

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

Next you'll be saying band names are singular.

Blur: is shite.

Francisco Javier Sánchez Brot (onimo), Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

OK, this is ridiculous, but does the word "pants" (in the UK English sense) always mean men's underwear? This is what I am arguing now. Women don't generally wear pants, do they?

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 26 January 2009 10:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, they do. Next.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Monday, 26 January 2009 10:40 (seventeen years ago)

You're more likely to call them knickers, though.

Madchen, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, I think I might call them 'pants' as much as 'knickers'.

Madchen, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

I love the fact you appear to have spent a whole minute thinking about that.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

If the planet we live on is the Earth, why is the moon not the Moon?

Zoe Espera, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

Cos that's its name, right? Our moon happens to be called Moon, no?

Zoe Espera, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Where I work, it's "the Moon" when referring to it as an astral object ("The Moon is thousands of miles from Earth") and "the moon" in more poetic or metaphorical usages ("man in the moon," "reach for the moon").

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Also, there seems to be a trend toward deleting the "the" before "Earth," as I have just done, since it's just one planet among eight, but no one seems to be suggesting that the same be done for "Moon."

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, I have seen "the" dropped from Moon quite a bit.

Surfjan Stevens (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

it's "the moon" for the same reason it's "my mom" vs "Mom" or "the sun" vs "Sol" etc

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

I like the sound of Man on Moon. But that is not a good guide for usage.

Alba, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

merriam-webster says both "often capitalized" and "usually used with 'the,'" which i dont really agree w/

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

of course, saying "often" is essentially read as "ask someone else"

k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:34 (seventeen years ago)

"Internet" vs. "internet" also y'alls.

Surfjan Stevens (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe "the" should be dropped from "the Internet".

I will look for this tasty recipe on Internet.

Surfjan Stevens (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

iirc AP says "Internet" and "E-mail" which i think is ridiculous

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

That's, "the E-mail".

Surfjan Stevens (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

Anyways it's all just "mail" now thanks to the wondrous technology of backronyms and "snail" or "postal" mail.

Surfjan Stevens (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

pleas no hyphen in email

Safe Boating is No Accident (G00blar), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

and no e in please doh

Safe Boating is No Accident (G00blar), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

plas

7Crutis (libcrypt), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

oh, AP also says "Web site"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

my bad, AP doesn't capitalize email, but it does add the dash

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

I get into this conversation fairly often, but "Internet" and "e-mail" are so standardized to me that it's impossible for me to imagine them any other way. On the other hand, "Web site" has always looked silly.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

We go with the Internet, but email and website.

But anyway, we have started extracting stuff from the reports we doand putting them into PowerPoint, which we then have to sub (a bit).

But it drives me mad!

For example, how can I do a non-breaking hyphen, an optional hyphen, a non-breaking space? Help!

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

In PowerPoint? I don't imagine you can, to be brutally frank.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

Has no-one ever wanted to do a line break in a presentation? Or not split Mr and Smith?

Gah!

"business-friendly formats"

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:01 (seventeen years ago)

Non-breaking space: don't have PPt here, but try alt+0160 (on numpad).

Non-breaking space: similarly, try alt+0173.

Optional hyphen: I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't possible, that sounds like word-processing type funcionality.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

I was riding the train to work, and across the aisle, I saw a woman with a cardboard box perched on top of her backpack. The boxstarted to slide off, but she hesitated before catching it -- so I must've saw it fall before she did. Or must I have seen it fall before she did?

Leee, Saturday, 31 January 2009 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

seen

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

wait what

"I must have seen it"

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)

Seen would imply past imperfect though, and this was a one time thing?

Leee, Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:09 (seventeen years ago)

NEVER use "have saw"

Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:13 (seventeen years ago)

seen is past participle

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:17 (seventeen years ago)

Have saw will travel. I don't know what's wrong with my grammar nowadays. ;-:

Leee, Saturday, 31 January 2009 05:40 (seventeen years ago)

'...must have saw it...' is always wrong. If the thing troubling you is that the box didn't actually fall all the way to the ground before the woman caught it, then you could change it to "I must have seen (or noticed) it falling (or start to fall) before she did"

Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 31 January 2009 07:17 (seventeen years ago)

'have saw' seems to be exclusively an American colloquialism. It is very very very very very very very very wrong, whether American or otherwise.

Donate your display name to Gaza (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 31 January 2009 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

Have saw. Will travel.

muomus (libcrypt), Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

oh d'oh

muomus (libcrypt), Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

'have saw' seems to be exclusively an American colloquialism.

No, I think Leeee was just overthinking this. I've never heard anyone say it.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Ok... one I was picked up on by a fellow grammar fiend (Grammar Fiend?) a few years ago. And was ashamed never to have thought about.

"I am ..." (doing something etc.)

Does the opposite construction exist?
"I amn't..."

If so, why do we say "I aren't...", when we wouldn't say "I are...".
If this is subjunctive skullduggery, please use words of one syllable.

AndyTheScot, Monday, 2 February 2009 00:26 (seventeen years ago)

Do people say "I aren't..." though? I don't think I do. You would say "I'm not", rather than "I amn't" though, surely.

ailsa, Monday, 2 February 2009 00:33 (seventeen years ago)

no one in the history of the world has ever said "i aren't"

k3vin k., Monday, 2 February 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)


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